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And the next prime Minister will be………

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 20-Oct-22 14:06:11

Who?

Barmeyoldbat Thu 20-Oct-22 16:29:32

If Boris becomes PM, again, what happens when the result of the investigation into him lying to Parliament is given, probably before Christmas. If he is found guilty he out on his ear and so do we have yet another go at getting a Tory PM. Also any PM is given an annual gift of over 100,000 a year for life. Will he have to return it, does Liz still get it after only 45 days. A right mess, need a ge

MissAdventure Thu 20-Oct-22 16:22:09

I quite like Starmer.

growstuff Thu 20-Oct-22 16:19:56

Jokers to the right, jokers to the left ... we get allsorts on GN! hmm

PS. Starmer is the leader of the opposition. It's his job to oppose the government!

Farzanah Thu 20-Oct-22 16:17:11

I don’t think we live in a real democracy for reasons you state Fleur, also we have an unelected Head of State.

MissAdventure Thu 20-Oct-22 16:16:06

It'll be Sunak, I think.

Maudi Thu 20-Oct-22 16:15:47

Boris is the favourite, you couldn't make it up could you.

Mamie Thu 20-Oct-22 16:14:27

Yup. Boris returns as PM in October, Partygate investigation conclusions in November, Boris resigns again, another leadership contest in time for Christmas.
Surely even the Tory party isn't that witless. ?

Fleurpepper Thu 20-Oct-22 16:11:40

Stormystar

We live in a democratic society so Do we get the leaders we deserve ! I do not like or loathe him but my monies on Sunak.

How Demoratic will the choice be? or Truss?

Who will elect them. Not the people for sure. First past the Post elections are not democratic anyhow- but this? Less than 1% of the population will decide? Possibly less. So 'democracy'- nope and more nope!

DaisyAnne Thu 20-Oct-22 16:04:13

bevisp1

He’s not everyone’s choice but I say bring back Boris. Or Rishi Sunak.. it’s interesting to know that Liz truss was one of many to get Boris out, now it’s her turn. It can’t be easy to be PM, or for any party that gets to have a PM, personally the conservatives are showing not to be trusted, rather shambolic time for them, although I voted for this party. I wouldn’t want to see Keir Starmer get in either.

He is the choice of a very few. I've said it before; if he comes back I would march ... somehow.

He is still being investigated.

Joseanne Thu 20-Oct-22 16:02:07

JenniferEccles

Would he really want the job again though?
Isn’t it more likely that he’s thoroughly enjoying his life now?
More time to spend with his young family. Lucrative after dinner speeches, along with maybe resuming his career in journalism, all of which pay a damn sight more than that of PM.

He’s had a taste of freedom, so would he really want to give all that up ?

On the other hand though, there’s the aspect of political ambition…..

Good comment with insight as to how Boris' mind probably works *Jennifer Eccles".
I hope Liz Truss will now spend more time with her family too. However I can't see her being successful on the circuit of after dinner speeches in so many ways!

Visgir1 Thu 20-Oct-22 16:00:40

Boris had the mandate..
Penny steady hand...
No GE for a while too unstable, Economically.

Lucca Thu 20-Oct-22 15:53:29

At least Boris loved this country. Keir has shown along with Angela this country is way down their list on their list of priorities

Absolute baloney.

JenniferEccles Thu 20-Oct-22 15:52:50

Would he really want the job again though?
Isn’t it more likely that he’s thoroughly enjoying his life now?
More time to spend with his young family. Lucrative after dinner speeches, along with maybe resuming his career in journalism, all of which pay a damn sight more than that of PM.

He’s had a taste of freedom, so would he really want to give all that up ?

On the other hand though, there’s the aspect of political ambition…..

paddyann54 Thu 20-Oct-22 15:45:56

Allsorts I'm not a labour supporter but even I can see they have more chance of running a government that actually gets things done instead of acting like kids in asweet shop deciding who to give money to next and what favours they'll get in return!!

paddyann54 Thu 20-Oct-22 15:43:09

Allsorts that was a joke...right? Labour will borrow to the hilt and then leave?
When this incompetent ,lying .cheating bunch of Tories came to power the national debt was @£800 billion .Now its over 3 TRILLION ...a lot of that is money given to mates during the pandemic ..where in your parallel universe are Tories capable of a stable economy ?

Zoejory Thu 20-Oct-22 15:33:00

I think we'll be having a GE before Christmas so it won't matter hugely
who is elected

Could be wrong of course, I often am

I've read comments that Boris is thinking about it but we'll have to see. I prefer to wait until something official is said.

That really would be bonkers
We won't need pantomimes this Christmas, the Conservatives are providing one

MayBee70 Thu 20-Oct-22 15:32:43

JenniferEccles

If Boris does decide to stand, I think the MPs would be fools not to bite his hand off.
Looking ahead to the general election, the Torys must surely realise that he is the best candidate by far to save the country from the horror of a Labour government.

I know. We really need strong and stable and only a Conservative government can provide that…

MayBee70 Thu 20-Oct-22 15:31:37

I feel as though the countries being run by some sort of weird religious sect…..

Casdon Thu 20-Oct-22 15:30:27

So in answering the question that was posed for this thread, what you’re saying in a roundabout way then Allsorts is that you think Keir Starmer will be the next Prime Minister?

winterwhite Thu 20-Oct-22 15:29:03

But if the voters are the Tory MPs surely, surely they wouldn't consider Boris Johnson? Would make them look ridiculous. And unelectable.

JenniferEccles Thu 20-Oct-22 15:28:45

If Boris does decide to stand, I think the MPs would be fools not to bite his hand off.
Looking ahead to the general election, the Torys must surely realise that he is the best candidate by far to save the country from the horror of a Labour government.

Stormystar Thu 20-Oct-22 15:28:45

We live in a democratic society so Do we get the leaders we deserve ! I do not like or loathe him but my monies on Sunak.

Allsorts Thu 20-Oct-22 15:27:50

Who knows. It’s been truly awful. She got in wrong, has done the right thing but left chaos, She hadn’t a chance, she took on a dreadful task, trusted her friend KK foolishly, didn’t handle it well, I have written to the house and MP saying she was not fit for the job. Yet I hate bullies, this has been bullying. One thing I won’t forget, long after she’s history, is Keir Starmer, his constant harassment, it has been brutal, first against Boris with partygate, he did the same against LizTruss, he did it with that sanctimonious monotone voice saying he’s ready to be leader, when did he ever have a thought of his own, since being opposition leader he hasn’t had a policy off his own. Anyone is better than him, we don’t need a general election, there will be a change in government, there has to, it can’t be a one party race as it’s been. At least Boris loved this country. Keir has shown along with Angela this country is way down their list on their list of priorities. They will do what labour always do, borrow up to the hilt, then when there’s no way out leave it to conservative to pick up the pieces by not fighting the election like last time. I am not conservative, yet definitely not labour because they are incompetent even without Covid. I go for the policies, not slavishly follow a political party if I don’t agree with their values. The last thing the country needs is a General Election. If there is I shall accept all the sweeteners Labour hand out on a pay later basis. .

Casdon Thu 20-Oct-22 15:25:09

Whitewavemark2

Telegraph says Sunak is certainly to stand.

Half the Tory MPs hate him.

And the other half voted for him and against Boris.
I’m in favour of a wrestling ring, let them slug it out while the public watches on the 6pm News. At least that way there would be transparency about the winner.

growstuff Thu 20-Oct-22 15:23:36

Sunak is currently the bookies' favourite.