What will happen to Conservatism and where will it go from here.

Oakeshott is a vile individual, and I realise that she is disappointed in the Tories for very different reasons to most of us. What is interesting is her acknowledgement that the extreme right wing are unhappy with the Tories. That is good news for the more 'woke' amongst us.

Katie59 says of left wing Labour "Of course they don’t, finally they have got the message that until they are elected they have no influence, they will have their say when they win a GE."

I really don't think that Katie needs to worry, Keir Starmer is doing his best to make sure that there will not really be any left wingers in any Government of his.

As paddyann54 describes in the post of 13.35pm, Labour would rather join with Tories to prevent left wing policies.

I would like to think that Starmer can control his extremists but I’m very cynical concerning politicians, however a week is a long time in politics and we have a whole 2 yrs of uncertainty.

One of the past members listed is my MP David Warburton, who was, at the beginning of April, accused of sexual assault by three different women, taking class A drugs,- and corruption and nepotism involving a very dodgy Russian, deemed an unfit person to be involved in financial services.

He had the Tory whip with drawn after pictures of him looking spaced out with what appeared to be lines of cocaine and lurid accounts of his sexual antics appeared all over the Sunday papers, but seven months later the voters of Somerton and Frome have not had the opportunity to kick him out in a by-election.

Why not? Is he being protected by the ERG?

HousePlantQueen

Fleurpepper

The ERG is the massive elephant in the room- and it is time we all knew who they are, who pulls their strings, and why- and what their real aims are.

Agreed, especially as we all pay their membership fees which they claim on expenses. Around £2000 per annum I believe. Some are very obvious members, people like Francois, Baker, Rees-Mogg, Braverman, Patel, Jenkins but others are more low key.

Talking of Isabel Oakeshott, as a pp was; this was on her Twitter feed this morning;

^What is the point of the Tories? They've lost control of our borders, lost control of law and order, can't run the NHS and are taxing us to high heaven. We routinely have no trains, tubes or ambulances. They deserve political oblivion^

So, they are simply not far enough to the right for her. I'm not surprised.

She is right that they deserve political oblivion though.

Isabel Oakeshott separated from her husband and began a relationship with businessman, and future Reform UK leader, Richard Tice.

It seems that the so=called "Reform UK" Party is far to the right of the Conservative Party, even to the right of the Brexit Party, but a great favorite of the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation's flagship political program Question Time.

paddyann54

Look north DaisyAnne here we have Tories and LABOUR in coalition ,all in an effort to keep the people who were elected in councils out of power .Now that is just not right .
The SNP /Scottish government is by far the most left leaning party in the "UK".Thats why they have won election after election after election .Ms Sturgeon is still in the job ,now on her 5th PM !!
One such coalition, just last week, voted down the supplying of defribrillators to all the schools in their area ???
My very good friend started this initiative and these life saving pieces of equipment were initially installed in empty telephone kiosks ,now they can be found in most public spaces and have saved countless lives .
The political ethos of these Red/Blue Tories it seems is more important than lives....but we knew that !

I'm not sure how you can form a coalition if one party has a majority nor why you addressed this to me. However, I am sorry you feel so cross about whatever it is that has upset you.

Dinahmo

It is shocking. I hope that all Tory voters read and inwardly digest this list and don't vote for them at the next election.

Your bias is showing Dinahmo. Some will vote for them because they agree with what they stand for.

I don't care where it goes so long as it leaves for good.

Labour leader attends a S*n banquet, watches football with arms dealers, and receives praise for his immigration plans from Nigel Farage all in the space of 24 shameful hours.

An establishment bootlicking Tory named Keir Starmer.

rachaelswindon.blogspot.com/2022/11/starmers-new-low-24-hours-of_26.html?m=1

Grany

Labour leader attends a S*n banquet, watches football with arms dealers, and receives praise for his immigration plans from Nigel Farage all in the space of 24 shameful hours.

An establishment bootlicking Tory named Keir Starmer.

rachaelswindon.blogspot.com/2022/11/starmers-new-low-24-hours-of_26.html?m=1

You know what, Grany.

'Hold your friends close and your enemies closer'

(source debatable; either Sun Tzu, Chinese author of the Art of War; Machiavelli, The Prince, or the scriptwriter of The Godfather )

Good advice...

What’s a S*n banquet?
Keir Starmer can’t be a Tory just because he has dinner with less than saintly people in your view.
I have no idea where Conservatism is going except down the pan.Even if Sunak does his best, they are out in two years.