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How do you feel about poppy wearing?

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biglouis Fri 11-Nov-22 15:02:02

Ive always felt ambivalent about this. I just completed a YouGov poll and its clear that many people share this view.

On one hand I feel its important to remember the sacrifice of those who died to protect our way of life. On the other it can be seen to glorify war. So perhaps the wearing of a white poppy is more appropriate for those who feel this way.

However it should be an individual decision and its very wrong to judge someone for wearing or not wearing one. Even public personalities are entitled to an opinion in a democracy.

Personally I seldom go out anywhere where I would need to wear a poppy not do I go anywhere where they are likely to be sold.

I almost always watch the cenotaph ceremony because, like all the forms of the military, there is a heartbreaking romanticism about it. My father (as a member of the British Legion) always travelled to London to take part in the walk past when he was alive.

Baggs Sat 12-Nov-22 10:53:12

Virtue signalling can also be done by not wearing a red poppy because you think “it glorifies war” or by giving yourself the right to make judgements on others for wearing them.

This (these judgments of yours, Mon) may be true, but how would anyone know? I actually forgot about poppies for remembrance this year because I have other rather grave things on my mind right now, but that doesn't mean I didn't remember on the day, nor that I think Remembrance shouldn't be a Thing in our calendar, nor that I didn't think of members of my own family who were affected by the World Wars, nor that I judged anyone on the poppy front at all.

Thinking about it now, it has just occurred to me that no-one at work wore a poppy. I'd dare anyone to make a judgment about that. we don't know the whys and wherefores of other people's lives.

nanna8 Sat 12-Nov-22 10:58:24

I don’t think virtue signalling enters the minds of anyone here. I have certainly never heard of it in relation to wearing a poppy. Very few do wear them here because we are such a diverse community half of the people round here would have no clue what it even means.

Glorianny Sat 12-Nov-22 11:08:26

Namsnanny

White poppy doesn't need to be worn or associated with the red one though.

A Peace poppy is a good idea, provided the funds go to a good cause.

But in competition? In November?
They stand for different things ideologically.

Namsnanny Are you saying those women who were the ones who lost most in WW1 had no right to make their own poppy and present them to remember what had happened?
White poppies also stand for the civilians killed and more civilians die in wars now than military personnel, so arguably they are more about remembrance than the red.
They certainly have their place

Mollygo Sat 12-Nov-22 11:12:32

Baggs,
This (these judgments of yours, Mon) may be true, but how would anyone know.
Yes!!! How would anyone know?
Exactly what I said about the judgement of those on TV.

volver Sat 12-Nov-22 11:35:57

Mollygo

Wow! All the people on TV and elsewhere who have suddenly found an overwhelming desire to wear a poppy when their producer tells them to do so.
You can tell the difference between those you mention and all those who choose to wear one for their own personal reasons? 🤣🤣🤣
Virtue signalling can also be done by not wearing a red poppy because you think “it glorifies war” or by giving yourself the right to make judgements on others for wearing them.
I do hope I don’t get banned for this!

Barking up the wrong tree by trying to pick a fight this time Mollygo.

I can't tell the difference between the two groups you mention but you will see in my post that I have made a comment on the people who only wear a poppy to meet some broadcaster's rule. A rule which is in place to satisfy the requirement that some people have, that everyone should wear, not only a poppy, but a poppy they approve of.

And I'm afraid a reporter wearing one while reporting on a conference in a foreign country, does make me suspicious of their motives, which may of course be completely blameless. And I do wonder about the person who hastily finds and dons a poppy when he's being interviewed in front of millions, but doesn't see the need when he's outside. Wearing the same clothes, a few minutes earlier.

We agree about people not having the right to make judgements on those who do wear them. Which is why my earlier post opened with I believe anyone who wants to wear one should. Any anyone who doesn't wear one should be allowed that choice too.

choughdancer Sat 12-Nov-22 11:54:24

Thank you to biglouis and everyone else posting on this thread. It has reminded me to donate to the peace poppy and one of the charities that the purple poppy supports. I've already bought (and lost!) a red poppy, so won't be wearing any poppies this year.

Mollygo Sat 12-Nov-22 11:59:07

Never a waste of time for you Volver dear!🤣🤣🤣

Grantanow Sat 12-Nov-22 12:35:38

My mother, who lived through WW2, always said ex-servicemen and women should not have to depend on charities like poppy sales and that their needs should be fully met from taxation. I agree with that view. In the USA there is a Veterans' Administration which supports ex-servicemen and women.