New head of the Met speaks out about problem officers.

Well, Maizie, I intended a hypothetical question. had not read the previous explanation you cite, and I am sorry about that. I certainly did not intend my question to be a personal challenge to yourself.

Box, please don’t dismiss many men yet exclude women from criticism

Caleo

Why does Sir Mark Rowley not train the policemen properly?

Policemen need to be trained in ethics and public relations; you can't presume all recruits come with these skills in place.

This is what you asked, Caleo. You don't have to look very far for your question, just a few posts up from this one.

Why does Sir Mark Rowley not train the policemen properly?

If you think this is a 'hypothetical question' then I have a bridge to sell you..

Training isn't the complete answer. Many who join the police force are racist, mysogonistic; the macho male who likes to wear a uniform and throw his weight about. Not all, of course, but an ideal job for some bully boys.
I would exclude women police officers from this condemnation.I am full of praise for them having to put up with the likes of Wayne Couzens.

I remember now, Maizie. I had asked a hypothetical question about police officer training and you took it to be me asking you to give a definitive answer.

It's not silly, Maizie, to expect people on a discussion group to give reasons for what they claim. I've actually forgotten by now what this is all about.

Police budgets have been decimated. Their previously excellent on going training courses of course diminished. 12 years of Tory misrule have caused so much damage to public services.

Caleo

You might think about it.

You might stop playing silly b6ggers, too...

You might think about it.

Caleo

Right , Maizie. Well then let me ask why his predecessor did not train the policemen properly.

I have no idea why she didn't train the police properly. Should I have?

and they probably are mostly policemen too.

Right , Maizie. Well then let me ask why his predecessor did not train the policemen properly.

Why does Sir Mark Rowley not train the policemen properly?

He's only been in the job for 5 minutes. No doubt he will make changes as a result of what he is finding (well, I sincerely hope he will make changes).

Cuts to police budgets over the years haven't helped...

Grantanow

The government should ensure he gets the powers to sack errant officers.

The Met Police Federation claims he does have those powers.

It's a bloody disgrace that 3,000 officers can't be fully deployed - not wonder we rarely see police out on the beat!

This is something else that Braverman needs to sort out - I doubt she will, the can will just be kicked down the road.

Why does Sir Mark Rowley not train the policemen properly?

Policemen need to be trained in ethics and public relations; you can't presume all recruits come with these skills in place.

GrannyGravy13 Sir Mark Rowley acknowledges your point in the article.
I find it unbelievable that officers who are as poor at their job as the “about 100” can’t be sacked after working through the appropriate HR policy.

Just a quick point, there are some really good caring and efficient Met Police Officers, let’s be careful not to tarnish them all with the same brush.

If it wasn’t so awful it would be laughable 😥

If they have not got the full trust of their boss then they should not be in the job, simples.

If anyone else is not capable of performing their duties at work then they would lose their jobs, get HR to look closer at their contracts of employment.

The government should ensure he gets the powers to sack errant officers.