Meghan Markle Faced 'Disgusting and Very Real' Threats in the U.K., Former Counterterrorism Head Says

Piers Morgans behaviour in relation to Meghan is deeply disturbing.

Iam64

I looked at the daily m this morning. As always, it has pages of criticism of H and M, setting them against W and K in some kind of horrible competition. In the DM view, of course one couple are pantomime villains, the other perfect in every way.

Imagine any family subjected to this kind of exploitative, nasty publicity and not being negatively affected.

They did this with Diana and Sarah too.

Galaxy

Piers Morgans behaviour in relation to Meghan is deeply disturbing.

I agree. It's abnormal, the grudge he holds for her not wanting a friendship with him.

Hell hath no fury like Piers Morgan.

Can't say I listen to him, except when I followed a link on GN once. He is obsessed.

Piers Morgan is just a nasty piece of work. He threatened Ian Hislop on HIGNFY when he was a guest and Ian said something he didn't like about a scandal that Piers was involved in. I watched it several times thinking it might be a warped sense of humour but it obviously wasn't.

Violet, where is the evidence that children are fine in estrangement situation? Parents might think so, as when children are tiny everything mom says is true to them, no question, as they develop for a quiet life they don’t rock the boat, as they get older they question, if indeed they have a mind of of their own. They will probably find out about cousins, of grandparents etc, visit and decide for themselves, especially if mom is lacking in certain areas or difficult.
Children benefit from grandparents, aunts and uncles, of course if there has been mental or physical abuse that’s different and I believe when ready the children need to know why. So many times it’s used as emotional blackmail or jealousy.
I know you had an abusive and cruel mother and obviously you wanted to protect your children from that, but that’s not always the case.

Allsorts

Violet, where is the evidence that children are fine in estrangement situation? Parents might think so, as when children are tiny everything mom says is true to them, no question, as they develop for a quiet life they don’t rock the boat, as they get older they question, if indeed they have a mind of of their own. They will probably find out about cousins, of grandparents etc, visit and decide for themselves, especially if mom is lacking in certain areas or difficult.
Children benefit from grandparents, aunts and uncles, of course if there has been mental or physical abuse that’s different and I believe when ready the children need to know why. So many times it’s used as emotional blackmail or jealousy.
I know you had an abusive and cruel mother and obviously you wanted to protect your children from that, but that’s not always the case.

I haven't at any point mentioned children that haven't been estranged due to abuse.

Megan has clearly topic family members

I should imagine that some the damage for children comes before the estrangement because of the arguments between the adults and some from maybe losing somebody they are close to where they hear terrible stories. Meghan was estranged from her family before her children were born so the chances are the children will know no different and will be quite well adjusted because of that. We have no evidence that she is saying nasty things about her family.
My children grew up without their maternal grandfather (his choice rather than mine) and don't feel damaged. When he did come into their lives as adults, although I have never said anything against him, they came to their own decision that he was not someone to whom they could feel warm towards. They tried for my sake but he turned out to be a wrong 'un.
No contact sometimes protects children rather than damaging them if done in the right way.

Icanhandthemback is right of course. No contact can protect rather than damage children, or indeed adults. People who cause emotional damage by their behaviour are generally best avoided

Disappointed at some of the throughly inhuman responses on here. One thing is for certain, if you said anything dismissive and nasty you are an ignorant degenerate.

Iam64

Icanhandthemback is right of course. No contact can protect rather than damage children, or indeed adults. People who cause emotional damage by their behaviour are generally best avoided

I agree.
If Meghan and Harry say nothing about her estranged family the children will not know anything.

However, when they are old enough they will begin to ask questions.

Its a hood lesson to teach children

We don't tolerate abuse no matter who it is

VioletSky

Its a hood lesson to teach children

We don't tolerate abuse no matter who it is

I don't think so.

You'd be projecting your own feelings on to your children.

They are entitled to make their own relationships with family members when they are ready.
Their experiences and relationships may be totally different from yours.

No.

I will teach my children we don't have to have relationships with abusive people.

And I will teach them what abuse looks like

And that's no one else's business

VioletSky

No.

I will teach my children we don't have to have relationships with abusive people.

And I will teach them what abuse looks like

And that's no one else's business

You can do as you wish, of course.

And that's no one else's business
Absolutely right

People who cause emotional damage by their behaviour are generally best avoided
They may not cause emotional damage to everyone.

You cannot say that your way of thinking is necessarily the right way for every family.

If I know that a person is abusive, be that physically, sexually or emotionally...

Then I'm definitely going to tell my child, whether they are an adult or not, that person is not safe.

I'm not going to just stand by and allow them to take a risk without telling them the truth

I will project facts at my children

Sorry you don't like that

But I will do the same for anyone walking away from abusers and tell them "Good job mum" for protecting their children

Bibblebibbleblop

Disappointed at some of the throughly inhuman responses on here. One thing is for certain, if you said anything dismissive and nasty you are an ignorant degenerate.

Nice that you managed to avoid being nasty 🙄🙄

I agree icanhandthemback. I haven't seen any evidence of Meghan criticising her family. I'm also not aware of anything to suggest that they're responsible for causing emotional damage or are abusive in any way.

Those are reasons why some estrange family members, but are not the only reasons.

As you say Callistemon, when children are old enough and ready to do so they're entitled to form their own relationships with family that their parents have chosen to have no contact with.

It does happen.

I haven't seen any evidence of Meghan criticising her family. I'm also not aware of anything to suggest that they're responsible for causing emotional damage or are abusive in any way

Me neither, Smileless.
Estrangement can happen for many reasons.

Projecting one's own experiences and feelings on to others does not mean those experiences are at all relevant to the other person.

Once again, it is becoming the personal journey of one poster.

We're talking generally here, no-one knows what goes on in other families.

VSky
How has this thread meandered from a revelation that Meghan and Harry received vile, real and frightening threats, to the inference that Meghan's family is toxic and abusive?
Is that a known fact or an interpretation of what you think are the facts from tittle-tattle in the media?

Callistemon21

Once again, it is becoming the personal journey of one poster.

We're talking generally here, no-one knows what goes on in other families.

You are correct. So anyone who says Meghan is horrible for cutting her father and sister off should mind their own business.

No one knows what happens in another family.

Except. In this case, we know that her father staged/sold photos to the very tabloids that were making her life miserable, has continued to do interviews and in fact stated he would continue to do interviews until she talked to him, and now has a restraining order against a journalist for threatening to kill him.

Could you imagine what he would have done if he did have access to the children?

Not against the journalist. The ROnis against Thomas Markle.

I would categorise some of her family as toxic

You want to say that is me projecting my feelings... as ridiculous as that sounds

Sure, go for it

I have feelings about all sorts of things

Shall we all never discuss anything we have personally experienced?

Personally I think people discuss all sorts of things and if I were to accuse someone else in discussion of projecting their feelings, I'd be being a bitch because there is absolutely no way I could possibly know that was the case

and now has a restraining order against a journalist for threatening to kill him
😲 well, I didn't know that.

He sounds as if he's despairing to the point where his behaviour is irrational and self-destructive.