Meghan Markle Faced 'Disgusting and Very Real' Threats in the U.K., Former Counterterrorism Head Says

Oreo

Two things about this thread.
The first is that Netflix using a Harry Potter premiere to demonstrate the paparazzi hounding H and M , when at that point they hadn’t even met, is showing that Netflix are happy to include lies if it sells films and by association so are H and M.
The second’s this thread’s becoming The VioletSky thread.It seems to happen a lot.

And there's me thinking it was the Joseanne pile on thread. I'm gutted!

Fgs Volver please get off my back.

OK Joseanne Sorry.

Meghan is estranged from her birth family, and no-one knows why; she gives no information about the reasons. Her choice.
She and her current husband were speedily estranged from his family, and all sorts of insinuations have been made, with scant evidence to back them up, but all portraying Meghan as victim. She is helped by the fact that the royal family rarely respond to innuendo. The allegations continue but are losing impetus because they have become wearisome. Unlike some of the lurid and oft-repeated accusations made on here concerning family relationships, by their very nature one-sided because they are anonymous and impossible to verify, it is possible to investigate accusations against the royal family when made openly because they are rarely alone.
Thus tantrums over tiaras and tights, pressurising staff and private marriages, have all been investigated.

To anyone in general:

There's a picture of some newspapers and I believe that neither Meghan nor Harry are in those newspapers.

There's a picture of some sort of parade and I don't believe either Meghan or Harry were there.

Is that more lying?

Volder

To anyone in general:

There's a picture of some newspapers and I believe that neither Meghan nor Harry are in those newspapers.

There's a picture of some sort of parade and I don't believe either Meghan or Harry were there.

Is that more lying?

On the balance of probabilities yes!

Are people suggesting that Neil Basu was lying when he claimed that there had been "disgusting and very real" threats? Apparently, people were actually charged. If that was all a fabrication, it's very serious.

PS. I couldn't care less about family feuds.

It is the visual implications of those stills that say this is part of our story

As for The Duchess’s repeated claims that Archie and Lilibet were not Prince or Princess due to the colour of their skin, perhaps she should do some research on the British Royal Family and who is and who is not entitled to be a Prince or Princess.

It is the accumulation of all the little untruths that add up to a couple who are economical with the truth

growstuff

Are people suggesting that Neil Basu was lying when he claimed that there had been "disgusting and very real" threats? Apparently, people were actually charged. If that was all a fabrication, it's very serious.

PS. I couldn't care less about family feuds.

I have not disputed these threats, and I should add that if there have been convictions relating to them I am extremely grateful.

GrannyGravy13

growstuff

Are people suggesting that Neil Basu was lying when he claimed that there had been "disgusting and very real" threats? Apparently, people were actually charged. If that was all a fabrication, it's very serious.

PS. I couldn't care less about family feuds.

I have not disputed these threats, and I should add that if there have been convictions relating to them I am extremely grateful.

OK. Thanks for the reply. So you agree that there were threats? That's all I wanted to know. I couldn't give a damn about all the soap opera stuff.

GrannyGravy13

It is the visual implications of those stills that say this is part of our story

As for The Duchess’s repeated claims that Archie and Lilibet were not Prince or Princess due to the colour of their skin, perhaps she should do some research on the British Royal Family and who is and who is not entitled to be a Prince or Princess.

It is the accumulation of all the little untruths that add up to a couple who are economical with the truth

It's lazy, bargain basement editing. It's one of the first Alamy stock photos which comes up if you Google "paparazzi".

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

growstuff

Are people suggesting that Neil Basu was lying when he claimed that there had been "disgusting and very real" threats? Apparently, people were actually charged. If that was all a fabrication, it's very serious.

PS. I couldn't care less about family feuds.

I have not disputed these threats, and I should add that if there have been convictions relating to them I am extremely grateful.

OK. Thanks for the reply. So you agree that there were threats? That's all I wanted to know. I couldn't give a damn about all the soap opera stuff.

If Mr. Basu said there were threats I believe him.

Unfortunately so many folks in the public eye receive threats some are nothing more than talk others are real and dangerous to them and their families.

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

It is the visual implications of those stills that say this is part of our story

As for The Duchess’s repeated claims that Archie and Lilibet were not Prince or Princess due to the colour of their skin, perhaps she should do some research on the British Royal Family and who is and who is not entitled to be a Prince or Princess.

It is the accumulation of all the little untruths that add up to a couple who are economical with the truth

It's lazy, bargain basement editing. It's one of the first Alamy stock photos which comes up if you Google "paparazzi".

I agree it’s lazy growstuff

Many folks will watch this documentary and not question whether or not those lenses were focused on and harassing the Sussexes, hence backing up their story

“Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive”. when you act dishonestly you are initiating problems, and a domino structure of complications, which will eventually run out of control, Megan and Harry are sowing the seeds of their own destruction

Many folks will watch this documentary and not question whether or not those lenses were focused on and harassing the Sussexes, hence backing up their story.

But GG13 that's how it works. That's how adverts work.

growstuff makes an excellent point, when she asks if people think Basu was making things up. Some people on this thread definitely do think he's "on the side" of the Sussexes and has a hidden agenda, and was just exaggerating what was going on. Others have said that everybody in the public eye gets these threats, and she should just have had a stiff upper lip like other Royals have had.

When it comes to M&H, its all just a soap opera, like growstuff said. But if the public can be brought to such a sense of hatred for a couple that the right wing press have decided are fair game, who's next? Looks like its Albanians right now.

But if you speak up, you're a "Meghan supporter". If I say that she's not as bad as she's painted, then there could be a storm of people telling me I'm anti-Royal, what else would I say, I've been taken in by the lying pair. If I was to say they are attention seeking and saccharine, I could be accused of changing my tune and not seeing how bad they really are.

The whole thing's toxic, there's no acceptable middle ground for some people.

Until we actually see the series, we won't know if Harry was complaining about the historical press intrusion with previous girlfriends or with him and Meghan. It's not always clear with a trailer.

Stormystar I agree. People form opinions based on what they see and what they hear. When the media reports on what they say and do which casts them in a bad light, they have no one but themselves to blame.

But what is clear from the trailer is the shot of all those press photographers had nothing to do with H & M and them being hounded by the press.

They weren't there, they hadn't even met. Why not show a situation when they were being hounded? When there were loads of photographers there just to photograph them? Why attempt to 'prove' something has happened with a lie?

It's not my fault I have massive fan club hanging off my every word

VioletSky

It's not my fault I have massive fan club hanging off my every word

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GrannyGravy13

It is the visual implications of those stills that say this is part of our story

As for The Duchess’s repeated claims that Archie and Lilibet were not Prince or Princess due to the colour of their skin, perhaps she should do some research on the British Royal Family and who is and who is not entitled to be a Prince or Princess.

It is the accumulation of all the little untruths that add up to a couple who are economical with the truth

The Queen actually did change the law so that ALL of William and Catherine's children would be entitled to the title of Prince/Princess. As before it would have just been the first born, while the Queen was still alive.

There is precedent for law changing in the Royal Family. I can understand why someone might have expected the same for Harrys children. For all we know - he might have been told it would happen, and then they changed their minds when they met his bride.

But Archie was given a title, which was the Earl of Dumbarton, but Meghan didn't like it because it contained the word "dumb" .

There are multiple images of each of them as children and young adults, before they even met. So no, not everyone thinks he is tricking us with thay Chelsey Davy image.

We do not know why the press still or the Chelsey Davy is there or how it relates to the story, because no one has seen the documentary. You are all ASSuming it is a lie. When really you have no idea.

Meghans relationship,.or lack thereof, is relevant to this thread because it is used against her as proof of her "evilness". Some people even seem to think that she deserves what she gets in the press because of her choice to estrange her father. And, it seems, the people using it against her do not have all the information.

I have posted at least as much as VS, if not more, and no one is accusing it of being the "imaround" thread. Same with Volver. And a few others.

It is an open forum, anyone can post. If that upsets you, click the X at the top right of the screen and go about your day. It really is that simple.

imaround So no, not everyone thinks he is tricking us with thay Chelsey Davy image.

The still of press photographers has been identified as taken at a Harry Potter premiere - nothing to do with Chelsey Davy and long before Harry met Meghan, so nothing to do with them either, although for some reason it has been used as if it is.

I'm not disputing the racist attacks, nor the threats, but the other 20 or so whinges should never have been made public because they concern private family matters. The useless parenting of Charles as a father and indirectly that of the late Queen and DofE, the apparent dislike of Camilla the wicked stepmother, the disparaging of Catherine, the laughable comment about losing handouts from his dad, the moans about grandma taking away his charities, the strops and teddy throwing and plenty more stuff which to my mind should have remained private. What we have now is a soap opera of the highest order with the dopey protagonist revealing himself to be a bit of a wet blanket, (despite his admirable time in the army and his previously lovable sense of humour).

Sparklefizz

imaround So no, not everyone thinks he is tricking us with thay Chelsey Davy image.

The still of press photographers has been identified as taken at a Harry Potter premiere - nothing to do with Chelsey Davy and long before Harry met Meghan, so nothing to do with them either, although for some reason it has been used as if it is.

My point was, neither you nor I have any idea of what context those photos are being used, because we have not seen the documentary.

You are assuming the worst, I am waiting until I see the entire thing to form an opinion.