Meghan Markle Faced 'Disgusting and Very Real' Threats in the U.K., Former Counterterrorism Head Says

Nobody should be subjected to threats of any kind in an ideal world.It’s not an ideal world though.
The main thing is, in the case of threats to H and M the threats were defused and in a few cases prosecuted.

Oreo

eazybee

Neil Basu was Head of counter-terrorism policing between 2018-21, but was passed over for the position of Metropolitan Police Commissioner and head of the National Crime Agency. He claimed to have been blocked because he had been outspoken on issues of race and diversity.

So he has an agenda then.

Unlike those who are disparaging him?

If he has a hidden and bitter agenda then posters are right to disparage him.
The point is that it’s old news but he is dishing it up to suit himself by the sounds of it.

Interesting that this is being highlighted just as the Prince and Princess of Wales are on a three day tour of the US. 🤔

The interview was broadcast because he has just retired. It was lengthy and as I said upthread, he was measured and extremely impressive.
But it does help to watch it and hear what he actually said in context.
Should be on Channel 4 catch-up surely?

Just to clarify my comment "she is history" which drew raised eyebrows x 3 (Volver, Lucca, Blossoming). I meant it as a slang expression implying that Meghan no longer has any importance in my present life, her royal career is over, and I have no inclination to discuss further.
Just like someone might say their ex is history, although not dead.

Oops sorry x4 actually plus GagoJo.
Obviously minds who think alike!

Mamie

The interview was broadcast because he has just retired. It was lengthy and as I said upthread, he was measured and extremely impressive.
But it does help to watch it and hear what he actually said in context.
Should be on Channel 4 catch-up surely?

Thanks Mamie. That would help. But as I am abroad I might catch up another time if I can be bothered. Though no doubt we will be on to the next instalment before I get back.

We're like the Borg.

Oreo

If he has a hidden and bitter agenda then posters are right to disparage him.
The point is that it’s old news but he is dishing it up to suit himself by the sounds of it.

And if he doesn't have a hidden and bitter agenda but some people can't help themselves thinking that anybody who doesn't immediately savage M&H must have one.

OK to disparage him then?

It is also worth noting that the M and H bit was a very small part of it and a shame that is the bit that got all the headlines.
I can imagine that he is the kind of person who would have spoken truth to power. Can't think that would have gone down well with recent governments.

Ah, I couldn't be bothered to research him and I should have but ...

30 years in the and around the "job" and all he has to say is M&H had threats made against them.

No-one should have to live with the awfulness, not M&H, no-one but lots of people do.

30 years in and around the 'job" he knew about London Bridge, Manchester and plenty of others threats even if it wasn't on his watch, those are the incidents that brace the security forces up, but he focused on M&H.

Surprise, surprise, he has an agenda. He's entitled to have an agenda, lots of people have one.

Focusing on M&H certainly got him media coverage.

Objective archived. He got to air his grievances.

His grievance are very probably well founded.

How many of us wish we could bring grievances for past bias and inequalities? Plenty of us would be my guess.

Are threats awful and real, yes. Are there inequalities yes and clear bias yes.

Is it right that these things are addressed and changes brought about, Yes.

I suppose I'm just cynical about the victim card being over played.

Putting on tin hat and retreating behind the sofa.

You could try watching the lengthy Channel 4 interview and hear what he actually said allsortsofbags.
I dunno but it might make for a more informed point of view maybe? 😂
Apologies if you have watched it already.

www.channel4.com/news/exclusive-meghan-markle-faced-credible-threats-to-her-life-says-former-head-of-counter-terrorism

It is difficult for those of us in the U.K. to understand quite how safe our country is

There is always some level of threat everywhere.

It must be nerve wracking to live your life with that definite threat at the back of your mind all the time.
And to keep smiling.

allsortsofbags

One minute of a 10.5 minute interview talking about the threats to M in the context of far-right extremists.

600 terrorists stopped during his watch.

Expressions of how badly he felt at the time of the murder of Sarah Everard and how he felt shame.

I don't think its him that's got the agenda, is it?

allsortsofbags What did Basu say that you disagree with?

BTW He didn't focus on Meghan. He was asked a question and answered it.

Mamie

You could try watching the lengthy Channel 4 interview and hear what he actually said allsortsofbags.
I dunno but it might make for a more informed point of view maybe? 😂
Apologies if you have watched it already.

Indeed Mamie it’s always better to get it from the horses mouth than to speculate from reports of what was said.
It is misleading to say that 30 years and ……..all he had to say was that M&H had threats made against them or he was focussing on M&H.
I can understand why he may be unpopular in some quarters, because he is mixed race, outspoken about racism, and is no fan of the present government.
Good for him I say, but I do unashamedly have “an agenda”.

volver

allsortsofbags

One minute of a 10.5 minute interview talking about the threats to M in the context of far-right extremists.

600 terrorists stopped during his watch.

Expressions of how badly he felt at the time of the murder of Sarah Everard and how he felt shame.

I don't think its him that's got the agenda, is it?

So well put. 👏

Sounds great

I have all sorts of agendas to do with stamping all over racism, discrimination and bigotry of any kind

I agree Mamie that it's a shame that H & M became the headline when that was just one part of a very interesting interview.

His record speaks for itself and he clearly did a very good job.

I m sure Meghan will be thrilled that you no longer want to discuss her and she’s no longer in your life Joseanne
That’s such good news

Four people were shot, none of them fatally, only one was a policeman. Anne saw off nothing, only the people who were trying to save her "saw anything off". Including a passer by who is quoted as saying "I still believe that the life of a member of the Royal Family is much more important than mine." She did stay calm though. Charles wasn't there. (Not sure if you meant that he was.)

Other than that you are completely correct.

The would be kidnapper was in the car with Princess Anne with a loaded gun and demanded she go with him. She basically told him to sod off.

I know it pains you Volver but MM receiving threats, as every other member of the RF, people in the public eye and the likes of JKR, is nothing compared to what PA experienced. Also it was nothing to do with the reason her and Harry left the RF and the UK.

Also don’t believe everything you read on Google.

BlueBelle

I m sure Meghan will be thrilled that you no longer want to discuss her and she’s no longer in your life Joseanne
That’s such good news

Nevermind Meghan, I would have thought that some people on GN will be thrilled that I no longer want to discuss her on these threads, which is what I meant if you read carefully!
Am I being picked on today for some reason? X 5

I don't know if it pains you or not tickingbird, but I don't have an axe to grind over Meghan. I do have a concern that people believe what they want to believe, not what is shown to them.

So, for instance, someone might believe that a former Police Officer is fixated on a particular couple and sees a way of using them for publicity, when that's not true. Someone might think that a particular couple are top of everyone's agendas that they are directing the conversation about everything. People might see the world as being constructed in a way that it absolutely isn't.

If people can make up such abject nonsense and think that its gospel, what else are they making up, or imagining, because they have no idea what is actually happening in the world?

But I guess you'll think I'm just making all this up. Which kind of proves my point, really. Still laughing at the "don't believe everything you read on google" comment in light of all that I've just said.