NHS strikes in Scotland called off .

The Nurse who did my B12 injection this morning, told me this happy news. Then I listened to the BBC National & Scottish News and this triumph did not merit a mention. I'm not surprised as I know they only broadcast SNP or SG Bad news.

Doubt staff in England would accept 7.5% across the board.
Living’s cheaper in Scotland is it?

Oreo

Doubt staff in England would accept 7.5% across the board.
Living’s cheaper in Scotland is it?

If you read the OP, you will see that it isn’t a flat rate across the board.

There isn’t a uniform cost of living across England, nor, indeed, across Scotland.

Yeah but houses are cheap in Scotland.

Maybe services are too.

So negative

Dear God in Heaven....

Been to Aberdeen, Oreo? Guess not.

Oh no Lucca! You know what's coming next 😂

I heard the deal in Scotland being discussed on both the World at One and PM today.

Excellent news, let’s hope the RCN and the other remaining unions also accept what’s on offer.

The RCN and RCM have refused the offer, will probably strike next year.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64052327

paddyann54

After TALKS between MS Sturgeon ,Humza Yousef ,health minister and two of the unions strikes are off.
Settlement average 7'5% across the board with lower paid getting 11.4% and top earners getting 7.5% .

Now if only WM would talk to their unions about NHS England...oh wait..WM wants the NHS to fail so they can sell it off .Maybe time the people toppled the tories and took control over these eegits who are supposed to work for you !

Evidently TALKS didn’t have any better outcome in Scotland.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64052327

Evidently TALKS didn’t have any better outcome in Scotland

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64052327

No, they didn't, Mollygo

I was somewhat doubtful they'd reach an agreement but didn't want to be negative.

Just like I doubt very much any table talking will be of much benefit in the rest of the country either.

Oreo

Yeah but houses are cheap in Scotland.

Not in Edinburgh and some other places.

Mollygo

paddyann54

After TALKS between MS Sturgeon ,Humza Yousef ,health minister and two of the unions strikes are off.
Settlement average 7'5% across the board with lower paid getting 11.4% and top earners getting 7.5% .

Now if only WM would talk to their unions about NHS England...oh wait..WM wants the NHS to fail so they can sell it off .Maybe time the people toppled the tories and took control over these eegits who are supposed to work for you !

Evidently TALKS didn’t have any better outcome in Scotland.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64052327

Well they did make a difference in the sense that todays strikes were averted, so lives were saved. Well done Scottish government for that.

Two out of the three nursing unions have accepted the offer made by the Scottish Government. So that's a better outcome, IMO.

Zoejory

*Evidently TALKS didn’t have any better outcome in Scotland*

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64052327

No, they didn't, Mollygo

I was somewhat doubtful they'd reach an agreement but didn't want to be negative.

Just like I doubt very much any table talking will be of much benefit in the rest of the country either.

Please see my post above.

Talking works. Agreement reached with 2 out of 3 Unions.

So why did it not work for the RCN and midwives?

Midwives in England aren't striking. Only 44 NHS trusts are striking in England. 44 out of 219.

I don't know. I wasn't at the talks.

But at least they're trying.

Are there 219 trusts? Crikey. Didn't think it was that many.

Are there 219 trusts? Crikey. Didn't think it was that many.

I didn't think it was that many either..

I do agree about trying. Maybe more talks will appease in Scotland, but in England I'm not optimistic.

I hope M/S Sturgeon keeps her sticky little fingers out of English negotiation with the Unions,the Tories are managing quite nicely[badly] for themselves to make a hash. Her negotiations have lasted 2 days with some Scottish unions.

volver

I don't know. I wasn't at the talks.

But at least they're trying.

Are there 219 trusts? Crikey. Didn't think it was that many.

Each hospital is a separate trust, as are mental health trusts, etc. I don't think people realise how fragmented the system is in England. It was supposed to improve efficiency through competition, but has resulted in each one having its own layer of admin, including commissioning.

It was supposed to improve efficiency through competition, but has resulted in each one having its own layer of admin, including commissioning
And each layer of admin means less money for nursing staff?

Mollygo

^It was supposed to improve efficiency through competition, but has resulted in each one having its own layer of admin, including commissioning^
And each layer of admin means less money for nursing staff?

And all imposed by the government to "improve" efficiency. The additional admin isn't even at hospital level; it's at trust level.

So when people bleat on about too much management in the NHS, they need to look at the people who introduced it all in the first place.