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NHS and official government report.

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 13-Dec-22 12:14:33

It is as we know already but now been officially confirmed.

The NHS is failing because of “government neglect”

I prefer “government policy”

How dare they.

No one voted for this. Nowhere does it say in their manifesto.

growstuff Wed 14-Dec-22 17:41:32

Wow! IT's a strange kind of black hole which treats sick people.

ronib Wed 14-Dec-22 17:43:47

Casdon we could therefore agree that maybe the whole education and training process for medics needs a rethink? It is not good enough to have hospital consultants so over loaded in this way. At the moment 7 million are on on waiting lists. Therefore a self perpetuating cycle of distress and misery for both patients and doctors?

growstuff Wed 14-Dec-22 17:43:58

ronib

Growstuff management consultants would charge a small fortune for a report on which roles to cut!

Definitely enhance the number of nurses and doctors therefore increase medical school places, previously vetoed by consultants!
Have greater convalescence beds available with good physio where needed. Ensure very competitive buying options. Improve use of pharmacies.
Cut
Diversity and equality posts. Interminable production of statistics.
I don’t know enough about the management structures to comment on where cuts can be made. Although the head of the Nhs seems to command an exaggerated pay packet.

Aha! So why are you suggesting cuts, if you don't actually know about management structures?

Incidentally, this is what one former PM earned in just a couple of weeks last month. I'm sure the head of the NHS would be very happy with that.

ronib Wed 14-Dec-22 17:53:49

Growstuff strange as it seems, Boris Johnson didn’t take the Hippocratic oath and he was always in politics for himself. So okay he wants money.

Well I have studied organisational structures as part of my first degree a very long time ago. To be more accurate, I don’t have information available to me about hospital management structures.

MaizieD Wed 14-Dec-22 17:57:48

tickingbird

Bodach

Notice your post hasn’t garnered any attention because it doesn’t fit the narrative of certain posters. Normally they’d be cheering to the rafters anything Tony Benn had said.

The NHS is a money eating black hole and needs drastic reform.

So, tickingbird, when Labour threw money into the 'black hole' and patient satisfaction was at a high and the NHS rated one of the best systems in the world it was all a waste?

The tories have been determinedly cutting funding ever since they came to power in 2010, as you can see from the chart, and fiddling with its organisation. How much more do you want it to lose?

Casdon Wed 14-Dec-22 18:21:54

ronib

Casdon we could therefore agree that maybe the whole education and training process for medics needs a rethink? It is not good enough to have hospital consultants so over loaded in this way. At the moment 7 million are on on waiting lists. Therefore a self perpetuating cycle of distress and misery for both patients and doctors?

Yes, I’d agree with that.

varian Wed 14-Dec-22 18:49:50

Revealed: the £30bn cost of Liz Truss’s disastrous mini-budget

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/12/revealed-the-30bn-cost-of-liz-trusss-disastrous-mini-budget

That £30, 000, 000 could have funded a lot of well deserved pay rises in the NHS

Dinahmo Wed 14-Dec-22 18:52:46

tickingbird

Bodach

Notice your post hasn’t garnered any attention because it doesn’t fit the narrative of certain posters. Normally they’d be cheering to the rafters anything Tony Benn had said.

The NHS is a money eating black hole and needs drastic reform.

Really? Tony Benn's comments were several years ago so why would we be cheering?