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EU 🇪🇺 the biggest bribery scandal in the history of the EU’s institutions,.

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Urmstongran Sat 17-Dec-22 12:00:41

Have you read about this? There’s not been much on the tv news.

But today, in the Telegraph, I thought this was quite shocking.

“Police seizures of suitcases stuffed full of cash are usually the result of crackdowns on crime gangs or drug lords. This time, though, the brick-like wads of €50 notes were found not by the vice squad, but by detectives investigating allegations of corruption in the European Parliament.

Brussels has been gripped this week by stories of an international bribery ring said to involve Qatar, Morocco and influential EU figures. Colossal sums of money have been found in the homes of some of the alleged recipients: €600,000 (£523,000) in bank notes at the home of an Italian politician, €150,000 tucked into the luxury luggage of a Greek socialist MEP, and hundreds of thousands more in the possession of her father. In all, more than €1.5 million has been seized in raids on 19 locations in the Belgian capital and in Italy, some of which were in the Parliament itself.

The investigation centres on claims that Qatar tried to buy influence in order to help secure an “open skies” deal that would give its airlines unfettered access to EU markets and airspace. It is, without question, the biggest bribery scandal in the history of the EU’s institutions, and it could well get much worse, with reports that up to 60 MEPs could be dragged into it. Four people, including Eva Kaili, a Greek MEP who was until this week a vice-president of the Parliament, have so far been charged with corruption, with the prospect of high-profile court cases to come.”

GrannyGravy13 Sat 17-Dec-22 12:06:25

I saw this a few days ago.

Unfortunately politicians whatever their party or country are more interested in lining their pockets than looking out for the electorate they are supposedly representing.

MerylStreep Sat 17-Dec-22 12:14:30

I’ve been watching this for about a week or more.
She’s just one who has been caught. Others are far more clever.

Dinahmo Sat 17-Dec-22 12:16:51

So euros 1.5 million found. A drop in the ocean compared with the millions "lost" through the PPE fast lane contracts.

Blossoming Sat 17-Dec-22 12:20:43

If only they’d handed them straight to a charity, like King Charles III did.

Corruption is everywhere, sadly.

Poppyred Sat 17-Dec-22 12:22:05

Oh! What a surprise! NOT!

growstuff Sat 17-Dec-22 12:25:56

At least action is being taken.

Anybody know where Michelle Mone is?

Siope Sat 17-Dec-22 12:27:37

It’s been in most of the media over a week or so.

Dreadful, obviously. I am pleased to see it being investigated.

I wish the UK government was as committed to - or even vaguely interested in - investigating its own political corruption.

Grantanow Sat 17-Dec-22 12:52:44

Awful if true but not as bad as UK allegations about PPE supplies and alleged misbehaviour in the House of Lords. Hardly a reason for Brexit!

MaizieD Sat 17-Dec-22 13:02:33

GrannyGravy13

I saw this a few days ago.

Unfortunately politicians whatever their party or country are more interested in lining their pockets than looking out for the electorate they are supposedly representing.

That's a very extreme position for you to take, GG13, you're usually a bit more objective than this.

We know this is true of some politicians, witness our own covid contract scandals, involving much larger sums, but it is most unfair to imply that all politicians are on the make at the expense of their electorates.

I knew about this, there has been quite a lot about it on twitter this week. What it doesn't imply is that the EU is an over all corrupt institution. Which is what I feel that some would like us to think.

Oreo Sat 17-Dec-22 13:02:43

MerylStreep

I’ve been watching this for about a week or more.
She’s just one who has been caught. Others are far more clever.

Bet it’s been going on for years, probably the tip of the iceberg.
The EU gravy train has loads of opportunities for corruption.

Fleurpepper Sat 17-Dec-22 13:05:42

growstuff

At least action is being taken.

Anybody know where Michelle Mone is?

This indeed. This case of fraud in the EU is just awful, but I am glad action has been immediate, quite rightly so.

This Tory Governement is up to its neck in fraud and tax evasion at so many levels, and the above is minute in comparison. And what is happening here about it all- nothing!

Kalu Sat 17-Dec-22 13:07:12

No worse than our own lot who are plagued with avarice then.

Fleurpepper Sat 17-Dec-22 13:07:31

Oreo

MerylStreep

I’ve been watching this for about a week or more.
She’s just one who has been caught. Others are far more clever.

Bet it’s been going on for years, probably the tip of the iceberg.
The EU gravy train has loads of opportunities for corruption.

What about the Tory and supporters gravy train on speed Oreo? What is being done about that?

Not that it makes it ok- what has happened in this case is appalling, totally agree 100%- but at least action was immediate- unlike here.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 17-Dec-22 13:14:36

MaizieD I do not think my opinion of politics and politicians is extreme, I am totally disillusioned with those in the U.K.
at the moment, whatever colour of rosette they wear.

MerylStreep Sat 17-Dec-22 13:17:50

Oreo
No organisation as big as the eu can be without corruption.
How could it have a head honcho ( Jean Claude Juncker) who when he was president of Luxembourg arranged the tax evasion deals for EBay Google and others.

MaizieD Sat 17-Dec-22 13:20:49

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD I do not think my opinion of politics and politicians is extreme, I am totally disillusioned with those in the U.K.
at the moment, whatever colour of rosette they wear.

But they are not all interested in lining their own pockets. I'm prepared to bet that most of them (there are 600+ MPs, don't forget) are in post because they genuinely want to change things for the better. It's just that they're not newsworthy...

Oreo Sat 17-Dec-22 13:24:26

MerylStreep

Oreo
No organisation as big as the eu can be without corruption.
How could it have a head honcho ( Jean Claude Juncker) who when he was president of Luxembourg arranged the tax evasion deals for EBay Google and others.

I didn’t know that😲

Mollygo Sat 17-Dec-22 13:48:19

It’s a shame about Brexit. If we’d still been in the EU we could have been part of this-or do you think it went on before Brexit as well?
I’d only amend GG13’s post to say
^ Unfortunately some politicians whatever their party or country are more interested in lining their pockets than looking out for the electorate they are supposedly representing.^
Sad but true.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 17-Dec-22 13:53:33

I wish £1.5million was all that has been defrauded from the tax payer in the U.K.

The difference is that the EU has taken immediate action, and the U.K. no action.

MaizieD Sat 17-Dec-22 14:11:44

The difference is that the EU has taken immediate action, and the U.K. no action.

They did take action when the Good Law Project was taking them to judicial review over the extremely dodgy way that covid related contracts were being awarded through the VIP lane. The government was prepared to spend £millions in legal costs to stop the JRs going ahead. As it was, the VIP lane was judged to be unlawful.

But suspending tories from the Commons or the Lords for corruption hmm

Casdon Sat 17-Dec-22 14:17:57

This was reported only yesterday. It’s happening everywhere.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63998059

DaisyAnne Sat 17-Dec-22 14:33:17

I have to agree with you Whitewave.

As Urmsongran has supported the many vagaries of the current government, I am surprised she is surprised that there is corruption in politics.

Once the many-faceted Conservative Party is out of office, there will have to be a team doing a drains-up on the last 12 years and corruption. Only then will we know how this compares with any other country or group of countries.

HousePlantQueen Sat 17-Dec-22 14:40:14

Yes, I was aware of this, it is being reported. Terrible behaviour, but it is being dealt with, unlike the blatant corruption and cronyism carrying on under our noses by the Tory government. I voted to Remain as you know, but this does not blind me to the faults or behaviour of members of the EU, unlike those on here who bypass their own moral code to excuse the behaviour of Johnson and his successors, just because they delivered Brexit.

Urmstongran Sun 18-Dec-22 12:08:28

From an interesting article on this subject from Jacob Rees Mogg in the Sunday Telegraph:

“In the European Parliament the situation is different. The privileges MEPs enjoy are personal and to the individual’s advantage. Avoiding arrest and detention for criminal matters has never been an accepted privilege in the United Kingdom, but it is one for the Europeans. This reveals two things about the state of the EU.

First, it is the triumph of the elite over the people; it is not a democracy but a bureaucracy where the functionaries outrank the voters and get given special perks. Historically, many small European states gave extraordinary rights to their nobles and these have been preserved in the constitutional structure of the EU for its lackeys. Such important personages cannot be expected to follow the same laws as those they rule.

It also shows that the EU is nothing more than a supranational body. It has not achieved the unity that its propagandists want. Edmund Burke said: “Parliament is not a Congress of ambassadors from different and hostile interests; which interest each must maintain, as an agent or advocate, against other agents and advocates; Parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation with one interest, that of the whole.”

Once again the undemocratic EU project is exposed. It is not a union but a collection of states seeking an advantage, so it needs the immunity of ambassadors. It is rottenly corrupted, seeking out and receiving bribes from other nations to project their interest. Thank heavens for Brexit.”