Oh just zip it Gary Neville!

Quite urms!!

Pontificating - so you believe that Qatar behaved well in this sorry saga. Yes they went and tool the money, Gary too- but so glad they are making sure to use the platform they were given/took to say what has to be said. Bravo.

Unless you are talking about him comparing the strikes to the situation in Qatar- as I have just seen. In which case, yes, fully agree.

Suspect that is what urms was referring to, fp. I most definitely was. Xx

Apologies for the automatic kisses. Also talking to no2 son!

lol they were happily accepted.

Yes, apologies for not making myself clearer (I was cross when I typed). Comparing the situation there to the strikes here.

Thanks, 100% agree then USG

Honestly I think he has caught a rare affliction.

He has acute 'Lineker's Disease', which only affects ex-footballers who have gone on to become a sports pundit.

Sufferers believe that they must provide us plebs with their personal political views, especially if their first name is Gary.

Button it Neville.

Fleurpepper

Thanks, 100% agree then USG

Well, there you go. Should not have commented until I had researched what was said. So, mea culpa, and NO I do not agree 100% at all. I can see why you are saying it, and agree that the comparison just goes too far.

But in so many ways, he is so so right. Wish I could delete the above.

Oh and I am a huge admirer of Gary- whom I have met several times. And he is spot on. Yes, they both took the money- but at the same time, they are using their platform to say what has to be said about Qatar. So rather them than some others who would not.

Why don’t reporters report, I don’t want their views, facts will suffice.

Thank goodness for footballers who speak out about inequalities and the system which supports that. OK so maybe the UK isn't as bad as Qatar, but speaking up for those who are undervalued and underpaid is never wrong. If you have the platform why not use it for good?

Because if you use your platform to deliver such a ridiculous message whilst benefiting from a regime that is fairly unspeakable you look like an idiot and your message is lost.

Why is the message 'ridiculous'? Yes, as Glorianny says, what is happening currently in the UK cannot be compared to Qatar- but I am glad they are using their platform to denounce human rights there.

Others would have taken the money, and more backhanders from the Qataris- and not said anything. Glad they did not.

Allsorts

Why don’t reporters report, I don’t want their views, facts will suffice.

Says who? I don't. I am glad they do. A vote poll would be interesting.

Galaxy

Because if you use your platform to deliver such a ridiculous message whilst benefiting from a regime that is fairly unspeakable you look like an idiot and your message is lost.

Unless your audience is fellow football fans, who understand why you were at the World Cup, and are likely to listen to your views on other subjects too. I think we have to remember that Gary Neville’s intended audience wasn’t elderly people, but football fans of all ages. He probably has much more chance of getting through to them than your average politician.

No idea why

- people spout this nonsense that politics isn’t everybody’s business

- why so many folk are all ‘defend to the death someone’s right to express an opinion, must not no-platform people… oh, but I didn’t mean that opinion and that platform’.

Actually, I have a very good idea why…

It’s a shame that David Beckham didn’t say anything about the situation in Qatar, but he is chasing that Knighthood isn’t he!

Just been thinking about how many people have supported J K Rowling speaking out about transwomen and women. Now I wonder why she has a right to do that after all she's just a writer. Could it be there is still a certain amount of intellectual snobbery around and writers can say anything, but footballers are just thick blokes who can kick a ball and need to keep quiet?

Glorianny

Just been thinking about how many people have supported J K Rowling speaking out about transwomen and women. Now I wonder why she has a right to do that after all she's just a writer. Could it be there is still a certain amount of intellectual snobbery around and writers can say anything, but footballers are just thick blokes who can kick a ball and need to keep quiet?

Any public figure can say what they want, not sure why you would select JKR specifically on a thread about Gary Neville - also think Jeremy Clarkson, Kirsty Allsopp etc. etc. , they all have different bees in their bonnets, different audiences? I think it has absolutely nothing to do with Gary Neville being a football pundit myself, he’s just saying things which some people don’t like so don’t want to hear.

Urmstongran

Honestly I think he has caught a rare affliction.

He has acute 'Lineker's Disease', which only affects ex-footballers who have gone on to become a sports pundit.

Sufferers believe that they must provide us plebs with their personal political views, especially if their first name is Gary.

Button it Neville.

Hahaha😂😂

Casdon

Glorianny

Just been thinking about how many people have supported J K Rowling speaking out about transwomen and women. Now I wonder why she has a right to do that after all she's just a writer. Could it be there is still a certain amount of intellectual snobbery around and writers can say anything, but footballers are just thick blokes who can kick a ball and need to keep quiet?

Any public figure can say what they want, not sure why you would select JKR specifically on a thread about Gary Neville - also think Jeremy Clarkson, Kirsty Allsopp etc. etc. , they all have different bees in their bonnets, different audiences? I think it has absolutely nothing to do with Gary Neville being a football pundit myself, he’s just saying things which some people don’t like so don’t want to hear.

You would imagine so wouldn't you? But I think the post which derides him and Lineker vividly illustrates the just thick footballers concept.
I choseJKR because she is very much supported on GN.
It's a form of intellectual snobbery.

Lady Diana always used her platform, didn't she?

What about Rashford- should he zip it too? I mean, he is paid very well as a footballer!