Oh just zip it Gary Neville!

He and his co-owners let the hotel be used by Homeless people for a long winter before refurb started
Gary Neville lived near me for several years. He was friendly, helpful and seen as s good guy
I’m pleased to see him speaking out politically. Paying staff in leisure/hotels/bars the minimum wAge Doesn’t mean he’s living in a glass house
I’m not surprised you’re irritated urns- Gary and Rashford are following Sir Alex in having good politics 🌞

Ah yes, and thanks, was not aware of this re Hôtel ownership and staff.

But Gary Neville was not just spouting forth on Qatar. It was wage claims in this country , the nurses’ strike amongst other things
From The Times
Gary Neville faces criticism for paying staff in his luxury hotel the minimum wage while condemning the government over nurses’ pay.
In his final broadcast from the World Cup in Qatar, the pundit and former footballer said the government was paying nurses a “pittance” and compared their treatment with the Gulf state’s abuse of migrant workers, many of whom died building the stadiums.
It has been pointed out that his five-star Stock Exchange Hotel in Manchester, which is co-owned with Ryan Giggs, is advertising for waiters and waitresses who would be paid £9.50 an hour, the minimum wage for adults. The staff are for the Bull & Bear restaurant, run by the celebrity chef Tom Kerridge, which charges up to £5,900 for a bottle of wine and £49.50 for steaks

Yes, by all means highlight the appalling abuse of human nights in Qatar, that absolutely justified. But when it comes to matters at “home”, people in glasshouses should think twice about throwing stones. .

I don’t think he should zip it. Enough is enough and everyone should be able to use any platform to get important messages across. To often we rely on the media to deliver messages but they all seem to be in cahoots with this ridiculous government.
A lot of people would have heard what he had to say and agreed. Now he should use his status as a popular pundit to do more in a political arena away from sport.
This country is sick and getting sicker. The more people talk about it the better.

Good on all of them, I say. As for Qatar, I think all those 'slebs' like the 2 Garys, and others, do know what they are talking about.

Fleurpepper

Lady Diana always used her platform, didn't she?

Not until she was Princess of Wales, (AIDS, Centre Point and the Homeless ) and then also as Diana, Princess of Wales after her divorce when she campaigned actively for the clearing of minefields.
Why should a member of the RF who may well be Patron of myriad charities not use their position to highlight awareness?
Camilla and Domestic Abuse, also Battersea Dogs’’ Home, Sophie Wessex and the WI, Princess Alexandra and (I believe) Alzheimer’s etc.
But too many slebs- media, theatre, or sports seem to think their area of expertise entitles them to pontificate often on matters way beyond their experience.
Emma Thompson flying by private jet to instruct us plebs to reduce our carbon footprint, for example.

We all have 'a view' Urmstongran- what is yours, about the treatment of migrant workers during the construction process?

Why would anyone not back all those who are highlighting their plight? I just don't get it.

Alan Shearer and many others have been using their platform to ask for a compensation fund from Fifa and Qatar, Gary Neville and Lineker are not the only ones.

No I mean I dont have any snobbery about his profession. I come from a family of football fans and have spent more time than I care to admit watching football matches both amateur and professional. And supporting a team that consistently lets me down.

Hif profession provides the platform- and he is paid very handsomely and more, for that.

What about Diana?

If Rashford was publically supporting the Tories whilst raising concerns about child poverty then I would ignore him, if JKR was talking about safe spaces for women whilst announcing that in some situations it was ok for men to hit women I would ignore her too. It reminds me of those organisations that display the pride flag in every country except those who have the death sentence for gay people.
It is nothing to do with his profession.

What about Rashford- should he zip it too? I mean, he is paid very well as a footballer!

Lady Diana always used her platform, didn't she?

Casdon

Glorianny

Just been thinking about how many people have supported J K Rowling speaking out about transwomen and women. Now I wonder why she has a right to do that after all she's just a writer. Could it be there is still a certain amount of intellectual snobbery around and writers can say anything, but footballers are just thick blokes who can kick a ball and need to keep quiet?

Any public figure can say what they want, not sure why you would select JKR specifically on a thread about Gary Neville - also think Jeremy Clarkson, Kirsty Allsopp etc. etc. , they all have different bees in their bonnets, different audiences? I think it has absolutely nothing to do with Gary Neville being a football pundit myself, he’s just saying things which some people don’t like so don’t want to hear.

You would imagine so wouldn't you? But I think the post which derides him and Lineker vividly illustrates the just thick footballers concept.
I choseJKR because she is very much supported on GN.
It's a form of intellectual snobbery.

Urmstongran

Honestly I think he has caught a rare affliction.

He has acute 'Lineker's Disease', which only affects ex-footballers who have gone on to become a sports pundit.

Sufferers believe that they must provide us plebs with their personal political views, especially if their first name is Gary.

Button it Neville.

Hahaha😂😂

Glorianny

Just been thinking about how many people have supported J K Rowling speaking out about transwomen and women. Now I wonder why she has a right to do that after all she's just a writer. Could it be there is still a certain amount of intellectual snobbery around and writers can say anything, but footballers are just thick blokes who can kick a ball and need to keep quiet?

Any public figure can say what they want, not sure why you would select JKR specifically on a thread about Gary Neville - also think Jeremy Clarkson, Kirsty Allsopp etc. etc. , they all have different bees in their bonnets, different audiences? I think it has absolutely nothing to do with Gary Neville being a football pundit myself, he’s just saying things which some people don’t like so don’t want to hear.

Just been thinking about how many people have supported J K Rowling speaking out about transwomen and women. Now I wonder why she has a right to do that after all she's just a writer. Could it be there is still a certain amount of intellectual snobbery around and writers can say anything, but footballers are just thick blokes who can kick a ball and need to keep quiet?

It’s a shame that David Beckham didn’t say anything about the situation in Qatar, but he is chasing that Knighthood isn’t he!

No idea why

- people spout this nonsense that politics isn’t everybody’s business

- why so many folk are all ‘defend to the death someone’s right to express an opinion, must not no-platform people… oh, but I didn’t mean that opinion and that platform’.

Actually, I have a very good idea why…

Galaxy

Because if you use your platform to deliver such a ridiculous message whilst benefiting from a regime that is fairly unspeakable you look like an idiot and your message is lost.

Unless your audience is fellow football fans, who understand why you were at the World Cup, and are likely to listen to your views on other subjects too. I think we have to remember that Gary Neville’s intended audience wasn’t elderly people, but football fans of all ages. He probably has much more chance of getting through to them than your average politician.

Allsorts

Why don’t reporters report, I don’t want their views, facts will suffice.

Says who? I don't. I am glad they do. A vote poll would be interesting.

Why is the message 'ridiculous'? Yes, as Glorianny says, what is happening currently in the UK cannot be compared to Qatar- but I am glad they are using their platform to denounce human rights there.

Others would have taken the money, and more backhanders from the Qataris- and not said anything. Glad they did not.

Because if you use your platform to deliver such a ridiculous message whilst benefiting from a regime that is fairly unspeakable you look like an idiot and your message is lost.

Thank goodness for footballers who speak out about inequalities and the system which supports that. OK so maybe the UK isn't as bad as Qatar, but speaking up for those who are undervalued and underpaid is never wrong. If you have the platform why not use it for good?

Why don’t reporters report, I don’t want their views, facts will suffice.