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Harry has admitted to killing 25 people in Afghanistan.

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Sago Thu 05-Jan-23 16:13:42

Astonishing that he has announced this.
He has now put his wife, children and himself at serious risk not to mention all the other implications.

He is a silly immature and dangerous man.

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 12:23:44

I think Harry's former colleagues might be listening to this www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjpF8ukSrvk and thinking Did You Exchange A Walk On Part In The War For A Lead Role In A Cage?

The song is roger waters saying I wish you were here to Syd Barret who became a paranoid schizophrenic from excessive use of LSD the songs about the band missing him and how he slowly began to lose his grip on reality. I guess that anyone who has really known Harry will be sorry for his mental decline and for the fact that he and his brother and father are disconnected.

Of course they will be angry and let down, but ultimately sad.

ParlorGames Fri 06-Jan-23 11:54:05

One way to make yourself a target then.

GladEye Fri 06-Jan-23 11:52:29

"Prince Harry has tarnished his reputation with remarks about killing Taliban fighters in Afghanistan, a former British commander says."

"In his memoir, the Duke of Sussex describes his 25 kills as "chess pieces removed from the board"."

"Ex-army officer colonel Richard Kemp told the BBC Harry's comments were "ill-judged".
He added the remarks may have undermined his security and could provoke people to take revenge."
"I think that sort of comment that doesn't reflect reality, is misleading and potentially valuable to those people who wish the British forces and British government harm, so I think it was an error of judgement."

And should any serving military bear the brunt of that "revenge" HarryThePrat will have their blood on his hands. His desperate need to "put his side of the story out there" has put many others, including his own children at serious risk of retaliation. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the officer's mess today and hear what they have to say about him.

Callistemon21 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:44:32

GrannyGravy13

Callistemon21 in an ideal world we would/should all be pacifists, unfortunately the bad guys have never received the memo.

No, and one after another appears.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:41:17

Callistemon21 in an ideal world we would/should all be pacifists, unfortunately the bad guys have never received the memo.

foxie48 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:37:21

I'm really not that interested in the RF and IMO H and M would do better to find other ways of earning money than exposing themselves and their family like this. It does no-one credit. I think his publisher and editor have done very badly by him and I do think he has quite severe MH issues. I generally don't read anything about him but ATM it's difficult not to hear about his revelations. I just find it very sad for the whole RF

GrannyGravy13 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:36:46

Glorianny whilst the combined forces of multiple Countries were in Afghanistan, girls returned to school and universities and were able to learn and have a semblance of freedom which we in the West take for granted.

Unfortunately once the USA decided to pull out and announced the date for the withdrawal it gave the Taliban a chance to rebuild and turn back the clock on all that females had gained.

The blame lies squarely with the POTUS who made the decision.

Callistemon21 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:34:26

GrannyGravy13

Glorianny

So you all know that he isn't getting help. Amazing the insight some of you have into the private life of H&M whilst apparently swallowing the negative tabloid guff without question.

Why did he detail the numbers? I've no idea. Will it come as a surprise to those who might see him as a terrorist target-well I doubt it. Perhaps he is suffering, perhaps the negative effects of being sent to fight what was ultimately a useless war are still with him and he wants to be honest about what he did.

The perception of the military that you only talk about it if you are pissed and then you need to be told to shut up is so sad.

I know many many serving personnel, they have NEVER EVER spoken of their kills pissed or otherwise.

As for being sent to fight in your words a useless war I politely suggest you show some respect…

I and my family have not got a perception of the military we have past and ongoing experience.

Glorianny has told us before that she is a committed pacifist, GrannyGravy.

Whilst I respect her views and wish all world leaders were pacifists too, I know the reality is different and I have the greatest respect for our armed forces and for those who fight for our freedoms.

I really don't know what Harry was thinking when he said that other than a selling point for his book. It doesn't sound like a thoughtful war memoir, more like a trashy, self-indulgent autobiography.

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 11:27:33

Having a therapist on speed dial who you haven't done the hard work with is like having a car in the garage that you never learned to drive.

Grantanow Fri 06-Jan-23 11:26:38

A stupid revelation likely to inflame terrorists against UK personnel. Self-aggrandizing and making cash at serious risk to others. Ought to be court martialed.

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 11:25:52

I'm afraid that Harry has values that are not shared by the RF or people with his military experience. I am not sure where he got his values, but they are entirely at odds with normality and everything that is kind, right or wise.

I very much doubt that these are the views of someone who has benefitted from engaging with a therapist and "doing the work". It has always been much more convenient to blame everyone except yourself in the "It's everyone elses fault but mine" school of thought and to continue to be a victim in the " I don't want help, I want attention" academy, where the consequences of your own actions are not considered because nothing is "your fault". It's a deluded place that no one who has "done the work" in therapy inhabits.

Anyone can "waa waa" like a baby, we all learned to do that when we were born. It has always been easier to "waa waa" than do the hard work, but you cannot do the hard work and still behave like that. Growth is a choice.

I could name a few other adults who make decisions without considering the consequences, but for H its a disaster.

Glorianny Fri 06-Jan-23 11:22:34

GrannyGravy13

Glorianny

So you all know that he isn't getting help. Amazing the insight some of you have into the private life of H&M whilst apparently swallowing the negative tabloid guff without question.

Why did he detail the numbers? I've no idea. Will it come as a surprise to those who might see him as a terrorist target-well I doubt it. Perhaps he is suffering, perhaps the negative effects of being sent to fight what was ultimately a useless war are still with him and he wants to be honest about what he did.

The perception of the military that you only talk about it if you are pissed and then you need to be told to shut up is so sad.

I know many many serving personnel, they have NEVER EVER spoken of their kills pissed or otherwise.

As for being sent to fight in your words a useless war I politely suggest you show some respect…

I and my family have not got a perception of the military we have past and ongoing experience.

The perception of the military referred to the quote from one of Harry's comrades. It was exactly what was said but worded differently sorry if you don't like what he said.

Most wars now are fairly useless. The Afghan war was useless. That is no reflection on the people who fought, rather a criticism of the lack of foresight of governments. If you can explain to me quite what use it was I will consider withdrawing that remark. But until then it stands.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:14:26

Glorianny

So you all know that he isn't getting help. Amazing the insight some of you have into the private life of H&M whilst apparently swallowing the negative tabloid guff without question.

Why did he detail the numbers? I've no idea. Will it come as a surprise to those who might see him as a terrorist target-well I doubt it. Perhaps he is suffering, perhaps the negative effects of being sent to fight what was ultimately a useless war are still with him and he wants to be honest about what he did.

The perception of the military that you only talk about it if you are pissed and then you need to be told to shut up is so sad.

I know many many serving personnel, they have NEVER EVER spoken of their kills pissed or otherwise.

As for being sent to fight in your words a useless war I politely suggest you show some respect…

I and my family have not got a perception of the military we have past and ongoing experience.

Smileless2012 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:14:16

I don't agree that that is the perception of the military Glorianny. Talk about your military experience by all means, but who has ever declared to the world, how many they killed?

Smileless2012 Fri 06-Jan-23 11:09:48

An insightful statement from that former colleague. What a shame Harry isn't in contact with him.

Yammy Fri 06-Jan-23 11:06:03

This was supposedly the Blue-eyed prince of the British public until he started to tell"His truth." I wonder how many back him now.
He has broken so many conventions with his revelations. Including Geneva which says that all people have to be treated as humans, not chess players as the Taliban were in his opinion.
Wouldn't any woman who saw or heard her husband in such a state advise getting help? Not open up to an American Ghost writer who would enjoy the sensationalism of it all and think of all the revenue it will bring in, in the USA. Where are his advisors telling him to tone it down?
I'm afraid he is one broken man/child and dread to think what he will reveal next.

Glorianny Fri 06-Jan-23 11:01:10

So you all know that he isn't getting help. Amazing the insight some of you have into the private life of H&M whilst apparently swallowing the negative tabloid guff without question.

Why did he detail the numbers? I've no idea. Will it come as a surprise to those who might see him as a terrorist target-well I doubt it. Perhaps he is suffering, perhaps the negative effects of being sent to fight what was ultimately a useless war are still with him and he wants to be honest about what he did.

The perception of the military that you only talk about it if you are pissed and then you need to be told to shut up is so sad.

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 10:58:24

Yes, he could do a 12 step programme like they use at AA to help him overcome his addiction to attention seeking and anything else he may be addicted to.

timetogo2016 Fri 06-Jan-23 10:57:38

Well he will be using his money on extra security.and he will need to the stupid man.

Callistemon21 Fri 06-Jan-23 10:48:44

GrannyGravy13

I saw part of an interview with one of PH’s military friends on ITV News who served alongside him he said

^ it’s like he’s in the mess on his 40th pint, absolutely hammered and nine of his mates are telling him to stop and go home^

He very much needs a loyal true friend, one who has known him a long time, without an agenda…

it’s like he’s in the mess on his 40th pint, absolutely hammered and nine of his mates are telling him to stop and go home

Yes, spot on.
He does need help and he knows where to find it. The first step is to acknowledge that fact.

halfpint1 Fri 06-Jan-23 10:40:20

Can it be that he is well miffed with his exclusion from all military ceremonial dress up that it's his revenge?I wonder if he needs some re-hab

OnwardandUpward Fri 06-Jan-23 10:17:18

Well, it will end in tears.

Witzend Fri 06-Jan-23 10:09:24

pascal30

He's really set himself up for problems in the future now.. he'll never be safe again or free.. whoever advised him or edited this book also bears responsibility for whatever occurs in the future.
What a mess...

IMO whoever ‘advised’ him, or edited the book under publishers’ orders, was very likely reasoning that the more outrageous/crass/utterly distasteful revelations the better, since they would mean increased sales and therefore $$$$$.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 06-Jan-23 09:58:15

*nine should be none

GrannyGravy13 Fri 06-Jan-23 09:57:40

I saw part of an interview with one of PH’s military friends on ITV News who served alongside him he said

^ it’s like he’s in the mess on his 40th pint, absolutely hammered and nine of his mates are telling him to stop and go home^

He very much needs a loyal true friend, one who has known him a long time, without an agenda…