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Harry sensationally accuses camilla

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lemsip Thu 05-Jan-23 21:13:02

Prince Harry has sensationally accused Camilla of plotting to marry Charles, take the Crown and of leaking stories to the press in his bombshell memoir, MailOnline can reveal today.

In an extraordinary passage in his explosive autobiography, titled Spare, the Duke of Sussex writes: 'Shortly after our private meetings with her, she began to develop her long-term strategy, a campaign directed at marriage and with time, the Crown (with the blessing of our father, we supposed).

'News stories started appearing in all the newspapers about her conversations with Willy, stories which recounted lots of small details, none of which came from my brother, of course.'

Callistemon21 Mon 16-Jan-23 14:18:17

Joseanne

That's because we women are very skilful at doing two things at once, so listening to two conversations is perfectly normal! grin

But sometimes we might give the wrong answer when listening to more than one conversation!

Callistemon21 Mon 16-Jan-23 14:27:50

He could've spent much of his money on his playboy, high flying life style prior to marriage
He didn't need to as his father gave him an allowance, Norah
Plus, of course, his Army salary. Peanuts in comparison, of course, but no doubt paid for a few nights out. Some people manage to live on less than an Army Captain's pay.

Joseanne Mon 16-Jan-23 14:28:30

Callistemon21

Joseanne

That's because we women are very skilful at doing two things at once, so listening to two conversations is perfectly normal! grin

But sometimes we might give the wrong answer when listening to more than one conversation!

Yes, ever tried listening to two children practising reading one in each ear? They look at you very strangely when you say the word "xxxx" from the one story to the wrong child!
While at the same time listening to 20 others in the room asking you questions!

Norah Mon 16-Jan-23 14:30:00

Callistemon21

^How annoying, having to listen to H waffling on. Bet Camilla wanted to say “Oh, shut up Harry, I’m more interested in what this new girlfriend is talking about!”^

So, Harry brings home an interesting new girlfriend who is chatting away and is then miffed that Camilla is not that interested in talking to him 😂

I'm not privy to facts to his inheritance. Are you his accountant?
All in the public domain, Norah, as are all wills after probate.

Callistemon21

"I'm not privy to facts to his inheritance. Are you his accountant?"

All in the public domain, Norah, as are all wills after probate.

I assumed trusts and probate protected.

Thank you, being corrected is good.

My point remains, he may have already spent his inheritances. I'm not able to ascertain his expenses now or prior to his marriage.

Callistemon21 Mon 16-Jan-23 14:33:28

Gosh, that would take some doing, but yes, they could have got through all those millions. Meghan had her own money too which she had earned, not inherited.

Even investing a good lump sum of it should provide a substantial income.

eazybee Mon 16-Jan-23 14:38:16

Other heirs and spares remained in the royal family, apart from the Duke of Windsor, therefore they got their 'accommodation and living expenses' covered. to what extent I don't know. They turned their noses up at Frogmore cottage although they keep a retainer on it. Harry's problem is that for the first time in his life he is having to pay his own way, with a very expensive wife to keep, and he resents it. He thinks the royal family owes him a living. He grumbled about his bachelor pad in Kensington Palace (just think of its worth on the open market) and it never seemed to occur to him he could use some of his inherited wealth to live somewhere more in keeping with his tastes.

Glorianny Mon 16-Jan-23 15:31:43

Norah

Callistemon21

How annoying, having to listen to H waffling on. Bet Camilla wanted to say “Oh, shut up Harry, I’m more interested in what this new girlfriend is talking about!”

So, Harry brings home an interesting new girlfriend who is chatting away and is then miffed that Camilla is not that interested in talking to him 😂

I'm not privy to facts to his inheritance. Are you his accountant?
All in the public domain, Norah, as are all wills after probate.

Callistemon21

"I'm not privy to facts to his inheritance. Are you his accountant?"

All in the public domain, Norah, as are all wills after probate.

I assumed trusts and probate protected.

Thank you, being corrected is good.

My point remains, he may have already spent his inheritances. I'm not able to ascertain his expenses now or prior to his marriage.

Royal wills are not in the public domain. They remain sealed. Over 33 wills have been subject to this rule which rests on very dodgy legal rulings
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jul/19/secrecy-of-royal-wills-questioned-by-senior-officials-documents-reveal

Philip's will cannot be shared for 80 years.

Callistemon21 Mon 16-Jan-23 15:39:03

So the amounts of inheritance left to various family members which were published could be whoppers!
😲

Norah Mon 16-Jan-23 16:06:22

Callistemon21

Gosh, that would take some doing, but yes, they could have got through all those millions. Meghan had her own money too which she had earned, not inherited.

Even investing a good lump sum of it should provide a substantial income.

I was merely pointing out how I don't actually know how others, not in my family (clue: not Harry) spend their money.

Not that I'd spend wildly.

I won't replace an over 60 yr old kitchen or pay for a mobile, but I do realise others spend/save differently, even on everyday items.

Sparklefizz Mon 16-Jan-23 19:03:53

Harry and Meghan must be tremendously difficult to mix with because absolutely everything seems to either offend them or upset them.... and then they brood over the smallest thing for years !!

Harry reads slights into every action and comment. People who talk to him must be wishing they were not, then people who don't talk to him are in the wrong .... nobody can do anything right. They are both highly critical and Harry thinks he is the centre of the universe and that everything relates to his feelings.

Meghan thinks it's fine to accuse Kate of having "baby brain" when she hardly knows her, but is incredibly offended when William picks her up on it. I am still wondering why M saved a text message exchange with Kate for nearly 4 years if it wasn't to use as ammunition at some future point.

varian Mon 16-Jan-23 20:15:43

Is it possible for two people who have been brought up in a disfunctional family to create a stable "normal" family?

Prince William was brought up in a disfunctional family but his wife seems to have had the advantage of a stable background, William was welcomed into her family many years before their marriage and perhaps learned how it was possible to build a happy marriage in which to bring up children.

Prince Harry married someone who, quite apart from being a divorcee, was, it appears, at war with all the members of her family with the exception of her mother, the only member of her family to attend her wedding.

Neither PH nor MM had any experience of what most of us might regard as a "normal" family life. so perhaps neither of them had any idea how a successful marriage might work better if good relations were maintained with their extended family.

Norah Mon 16-Jan-23 20:20:38

Callistemon21

So the amounts of inheritance left to various family members which were published could be whoppers!
😲

Apparently so.

Glorianny Mon 16-Jan-23 20:32:40

Callistemon21

So the amounts of inheritance left to various family members which were published could be whoppers!
😲

Yep. The only will made public was Dianas. And apparently her executors made some small adjustments to it.

Callistemon21 Mon 16-Jan-23 21:42:35

Glorianny

Callistemon21

So the amounts of inheritance left to various family members which were published could be whoppers!
😲

Yep. The only will made public was Dianas. And apparently her executors made some small adjustments to it.

Or whopping
😀

Callistemon21 Mon 16-Jan-23 21:43:41

The only will made public was Dianas. And apparently her executors made some small adjustments to it.

That was to her List of Wishes which is not legally binding.

Norah Tue 17-Jan-23 15:19:30

Glorianny Mon 16-Jan-23 15:31

Royal wills are not in the public domain. They remain sealed. Over 33 wills have been subject to this rule which rests on very dodgy legal rulings
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jul/19/secrecy-of-royal-wills-questioned-by-senior-officials-documents-reveal

Philip's will cannot be shared for 80 years.

Nobody except RF /their accountants actually know their asset valuations? Many here seem privy to Harry's net worth.

lemsip Tue 17-Jan-23 16:15:44

www.today.com/news/princess-dianas-will-revealed-online-she-left-30-million-william-t16171
Princess Diana's will is now available to the public for a fee in a new online archive.
And
edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9803/04/diana.will/
Editor's note: On March 2, copies of Princess Diana's will were released due to what family lawyer described as "great public interest." The papers revealed that the bulk of Diana's $35.6 million estate -- $21.3 million after taxes -- will be held in trust in equal amounts for her two sons, 15-year-old Prince William and Prince Harry, 13. Each will inherit his share on his 25th birthday.

Other beneficiaries are Diana's 17 godchildren and her former butler, Paul Burrell, who receives $82,000.

Most of the princess's estate comes from the estimated $28 million divorce settlement she won from Prince charles

it is long as it is complete so didn't copyall/

complete text on cnn

Glorianny Tue 17-Jan-23 16:23:32

Norah

Glorianny Mon 16-Jan-23 15:31

Royal wills are not in the public domain. They remain sealed. Over 33 wills have been subject to this rule which rests on very dodgy legal rulings
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jul/19/secrecy-of-royal-wills-questioned-by-senior-officials-documents-reveal

Philip's will cannot be shared for 80 years.

Nobody except RF /their accountants actually know their asset valuations? Many here seem privy to Harry's net worth.

They probably know how much his mum left him because that's in the public domain. They won't know if his grandfather left anything to him, or his grandmother or any of the other family members.
This is interesting-someone was allowed to look at EdwardVII's will to confirm the ownership of literary works, but they only saw the relevant pages and were instructed not to share with the public.
They're in a safe somewhere in London!
www.law.com/private-client-global-elite/2021/10/01/why-prince-philips-will-and-other-royal-wills-are-kept-secret/?slreturn=20230017111949
It's positively medieval

varian Tue 17-Jan-23 18:39:42

I doubt that Harry is short of money. He has to have another motive for his very stupid behaviour.

Grantanow Mon 23-Jan-23 12:42:36

Isn't this all rather a waste of time when there is so much wrong with the UK - cost of living, Brexit, energy bills, the NHS, climate change, etc.?

sodapop Mon 23-Jan-23 17:07:09

Well no need to waste valuable time reading it then Grantanow