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AussieGran59 Wed 11-Jan-23 08:48:53

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Callistemon21 Mon 16-Jan-23 23:09:22

Talking about Jeremys - Jeremy Clarkson has made a semi-apology to Harry and Meghan for his vile comments published in a newspaper.

They haven't accepted the "apology".

You'll have to do better than that, Clarkson.

Zoejory Mon 16-Jan-23 23:39:02

I'm clueless as to why Jeremy Clarkson has apologised. How can he? This article wasn't written by accident. He didn't mistakenly write it. The Sun had a chance not to print it but went ahead anyway.

It was just awful. I have no idea what possessed him. What on earth did he think he'd gain? Did he think people would think it hilarious?

He's been an utter idiot and now will probably disappear from our screens. And it's all his own stupid fault

Normandygirl Mon 16-Jan-23 23:56:00

Nezumi65

Normandygirl

There are so many "dark" moments revealed in this book, but one of the worst ones is how Harry describes how he could have killed Charles but chose not to. It happened when Harry was instructing Typhoons on a military exercise, near Sandringham, before deployment in Afghanistan. Charles drives over to see Harry and tell him how proud he was of him and what a great job he was doing.
He goes on ;
" I loved seeing Pa, loved feeling his pride and I felt buoyed by his praise, but I had to get back to work. I was mid control, couldn't tell the Typhoon to please hold on a moment
Yes,yes, darling boy, back to work
He drove off. As he went down the track I told the Typhoon
New target. Grey Audi. Headed southeast from my position down track towards a big silver barn oriented east-west.
The Typhoon tracked Pa, did a low pass straight over him, nearly shattering the windows of his Audi.
But they ultimately spared him..... on my orders.
It went on to blow the silver barn to smithereens."

I really don't know what to make of this, so many questions.
Was Harry qualified to be " instructing" fighter jet pilots?
Did Charles almost get himself killed?
Why on earth would Harry put this in his book as if he is proud of choosing not to kill his father?
Is this all a fantasy?

Have you read the book? He was training and had to pick pretend targets to practice on. He chose his dad’s car as it moved away - as a joke. He also didn’t blow any barn to smithereens except by pointing at it and saying bang bang.

Honest to god if you are going to accuse him of being a psychopath at least read the bloody book.

And the reason he had to train at Sandringham alone was because the press kept on leaking what he was doing preventing him from being able to go to war (largely because it out others at risk - that was a more of a concern for the army than his risk).

Yes, I have read "the bloody book" have you? The pretend targets were the imaginary ones he thought up in his hotel room and are separate from his recounting of "steering jets over marshy flats at ungodly speeds"
Where have I called him a psychopath?
I thought it was a strange thing to put in his book, even if he was joking about "sparing" his father. If that was his fantasy, it raises even more questions. In fact the whole book does, as he see-saws between regaling us with his "jack the lad" antics and his popularity amongst his peers for his "pranks" to portraying himself as a poor deprived victim who didn't get as many sausages for breakfast as William.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 17-Jan-23 07:40:44

I have just bought the book on my kindle.

I had no intentions of doing so, but I am rather fed up with folks putting their spin on a book that they haven’t read going by snippets taken out of context.

Mamie Tue 17-Jan-23 08:11:53

GrannyGravy13

I have just bought the book on my kindle.

I had no intentions of doing so, but I am rather fed up with folks putting their spin on a book that they haven’t read going by snippets taken out of context.

Will be interested to see what you make of it GG13. I found it took a while to get into, but then found it a fascinating read. It is very sad in parts, very annoying in others and sometimes completely baffling.
What I did get from it was a sense of how difficult it must be for any of them to lead a normal life, especially the more emotionally vulnerable.

maddyone Tue 17-Jan-23 09:15:08

Glorianny

I bet the whole lot of them thought him targeting his father's car was hilarious.

I don’t know about them since it never happened but you appear to think so.

Grany Tue 17-Jan-23 09:19:35

Peter Hunt on Twitter
An extraordinary allegation that has received zero coverage.

Has anyone asked Kensington Palace what action - if any - was taken by Prince William?

William took no action because he probably knew & endorsed it. We know he endorsed Knauff passing paperwork to the tabloids to undermine Meghan's case. We know Knauff orchestrated the bullying claim. We know Charles has just given Knauff a gong so there we are.

maddyone Tue 17-Jan-23 09:21:34

Cakeface

It couldn't be possible that Harry has been telling porkies again could it? hmm

What a hypocrite he is. Wails and moans that the British press give him and his missus no privacy and how that's adversely affected his mental health but has no such qualms in publishing private text messages, phone calls, conversations and emails from friends and family members to the world.
Squeals with outrage that his wife has been criticised and mocked by the press but is perfectly comfortable in publicly mocking and mimicking a matron at his school.
Whines interminably that his father was cold and remote but sneers and fantatises that he could kill him when he's visited by Charles and reassured of his love and pride for him.

Thank God he's not my son.

How absolutely true this is Cakeface and I agree with you, I’m also thankful that he’s not my son, and also that my sons don’t behave in this way.

Grany Tue 17-Jan-23 09:46:33

Prof Jenny Hocking
@palaceletters

My thoughts on Prince Harry, Meghan & the toxic Palace-media compact. 'Stories are planted, leaked, namelessly dropped, by competing royal media units .. the tawdry deal that pits brother against brother, family against family' #spare
@RepublicStaff

johnmenadue.com/when-family-and-firm-collide-escaping-a-royal-horror-story/

Grany Tue 17-Jan-23 09:54:14

Number of people saying they're proud of the monarchy has fallen to 43%.

#NotMyKing #AbolishTheMonarchy

We want a vote on the monarchy sign the petition

Harry said his family made a fortune from the save trade.

Smileless2012 Tue 17-Jan-23 09:56:13

And yet he's happy to benefit from it Grany.

Anniebach Tue 17-Jan-23 09:57:51

Harry wants more of the money he claims was made from the slave trade

GrannyGravy13 Tue 17-Jan-23 10:03:16

Anniebach

Harry wants more of the money he claims was made from the slave trade

I know it’s wrong but that has made me giggle 🤣

TerriBull Tue 17-Jan-23 10:06:31

It was £8 when I went into Sainsburys yesterday. I do hope the new Elly Griffith's book will be a similar lowish price for a new hardback when it goes on sale at the end of the month, that's the one that I want. I still have accrued Nectar points for such fripperies. Even with books I want to make sure it's worth reading.

Sparklefizz Tue 17-Jan-23 10:49:41

Ditto TerriBull

Callistemon21 Tue 17-Jan-23 10:50:08

Anniebach

Harry wants more of the money he claims was made from the slave trade

😄👏👏👏

Callistemon21 Tue 17-Jan-23 10:53:00

GrannyGravy13

Anniebach

Harry wants more of the money he claims was made from the slave trade

I know it’s wrong but that has made me giggle 🤣

Annie' right though - if his family's money is supposedly from the slave trade, as Grany alleges, then what about all his inherited millions which have bought him a lovely lifestyle in the US of A?

Callistemon21 Tue 17-Jan-23 10:56:09

I'm off out on my bulldozer.

We can be politically correct and change the names of all these buildings in the United kingdom, built and paid for with money from the slave trade but really, we should knock them all down. Why should any of us benefit?

I could be some time.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 17-Jan-23 10:56:31

Callistemon21

GrannyGravy13

Anniebach

Harry wants more of the money he claims was made from the slave trade

I know it’s wrong but that has made me giggle 🤣

Annie' right though - if his family's money is supposedly from the slave trade, as Grany alleges, then what about all his inherited millions which have bought him a lovely lifestyle in the US of A?

I know, that’s what made me giggle.

(I am not of the ilk that we are all responsible for any crimes/ills committed by our predecessors)

Callistemon21 Tue 17-Jan-23 10:57:33

😂😂😂

I can't find the key to the bulldozer
🤔

GrannyGravy13 Tue 17-Jan-23 11:00:08

Callistemon21

😂😂😂

I can't find the key to the bulldozer
🤔

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Anniebach Tue 17-Jan-23 11:06:36

🤔. ? Bulldozer

Grany Tue 17-Jan-23 11:07:00

The royals, slavery and empire are linked, even today. #AbolishTheMonarchy #NotMyKing

@CBSMornings
"The British monarchy has been heavily involved in financing enslavement voyages of traffickers": A comment in Prince Harry's book that his family made a fortune from the slave trade is reigniting talk of a disturbing part of the British royal family's long history.

Charles paid no inheritance tax we pay 40% on what we inherited.

Monarchy is one of the most expensive costs us £345 million.

The Irish President costs
£4 million

Grany Tue 17-Jan-23 11:09:08

Callistemon21

I'm off out on my bulldozer.

We can be politically correct and change the names of all these buildings in the United kingdom, built and paid for with money from the slave trade but really, we should knock them all down. Why should any of us benefit?

I could be some time.

So it’s ok that building were the result of people tortured enslaved

Callistemon21 Tue 17-Jan-23 11:09:31

Anniebach

🤔. ? Bulldozer

I'm going to demolish all buildings we enjoy now that were built with money from slavery.
First, I have to get the bulldozer over the Prince of Wales Bridge.