Woman found guilty of raping two women. Remanded in custody for sentence end February

VS, keep saying your version if it makes you happy. I won’t bother repeating how you appear to me. I’m just glad you prompted me to say it once, so you’ll know.

Doodledog wrote:

" the nature of empathy is such that it doesn't rely on having gone through the exact same thing as the person being empathised with, so anyone can empathise with anyone else, really."

Empathy has a good reputation since we all learned about it. While it's good to be merciful and kind, it's not actually possible to experience what someone else experiences.

Mollygo

We do not have to engage with each other

I only reply to you, I do not engage

VioletSky

Mollygo

We do not have to engage with each other

I only reply to you, I do not engage

?? ???
Feel free to do neither if it makes you happy.

Caleo

Doodledog wrote:

" the nature of empathy is such that it doesn't rely on having gone through the exact same thing as the person being empathised with, so anyone can empathise with anyone else, really."

Empathy has a good reputation since we all learned about it. While it's good to be merciful and kind, it's not actually possible to experience what someone else experiences.

No, and even if we did we wouldn't feel the same about it, because of our past experience and personality etc.

We can understand how someone might be feeling, based on how we would feel (or have felt) in the circumstances, but assuming that we know exactly how they 'tick', or that they will share our opinions is risky.

Sometimes it’s easier to empathise-
Easier to empathise with the feelings of female inmates and staff who are faced with sharing their prison premises with a male rapist, than to empathise with the male in the title of this thread who wants to be incarcerated with those of the very sex he raped.

VioletSky

Listen to the way you talk to me on every thread, it's exactly the way you just typed

I don't hold grudges, I'm just a happy person who gets over it

Really?

I’ve caught up with the last several pages this evening. It’s no surprise I find posts from Galaxy, Doodle and Mollygo (for example) reflect my own views on the subject under discussion reflect my own beliefs. I also find them coherent and easy to read.
Like many other gransnetters I have trans, gay, lesbian friends and family members. It doesn’t mean I’ve lived their experience but I’ve shared it.
I dont want to personalise the debate here but comments like this from you Violet Sky make it difficult to avoid it

I say what I think

Doesn't everyone, VS.

Your problem seems to be that other people don't think the same way as you do. That doesn't mean they aren't saying what they think, or that they are being 'malleable' with language or anything of the kind, though.

Doodledog

Doesn't everyone, VS.

Your problem seems to be that other people don't think the same way as you do. That doesn't mean they aren't saying what they think, or that they are being 'malleable' with language or anything of the kind, though.

Yup

Any particular reason to keep repeating yourselves?

If your version of what I said isn't mine, I'll say so

What's been repeated?

I had to explain my thoughts on how criminals have impacted on the lives of transpeople several times, as you appeared to misunderstand what I was saying, but I don't think I've repeated anything else, or seen others do so?

Well this is fun

VioletSky

Well this is fun

Your version?

Just thinking about those good times we had the other day where I apparently said two things I never said and I'm apparently still in the wrong somehow

VioletSky

Just thinking about those good times we had the other day where I apparently said two things I never said and I'm apparently still in the wrong somehow

Yup!

Lol

For Women Scotland say :

Please join us and Keep Prisons Single Sex to protest the recent policy decisions that have illustrated the horrific situation in Scottish prisons for women.
We have one message: No Males In Female Jails.
Any compromises or half-baked policies will not provide safety for women.

Thursday 9th February at 11:30am. Please spread the word and we’ll see you there!

Kate Coleman of Keep Prisons Single Sex :

youtu.be/SYl-pTEl_3E

There is a discussion now on Jeremy vine (Ch5). it's not particularly deep and meaningful (it is JV, after all) but Lowri Turner is being allowed to say that she has reservations about the Scottish amendment. This would not have happened a year ago. Even six months ago.

Whatever your (generic) feelings on the matter, it has to be a good thing that No Debate has definitely ended. That was spectacularly unhelpful, IMO.

I believe Alec Salmond has allegedly been reported as saying something along the lines of "imported gender nonsense" has jeopardised the support for independence. I'm wondering how many Scottish voters would agree with him.

No Males In Female Jails.
That makes it really clear!
Well done For Women Scotland

Who is damaging the image of ALL TIM by their actions? Is it females saying they need safe spaces, or is it males like

30 year old Danielle Edney

A trans-identified male who was caught attempting to sexually abuse children

I Have Uncontrollable Sexual Urges”: Trans Activist Caught in Two Separate Pedophile Stings, Wanted To “Impregnate” Teen Girl

Explain how a person responsible for sexual abuse damages the image of ALL trans people Mollygo

I think we need to understand why you think that

Is that the Royal “we” VS? Are you now claiming to speak for other posters?
As you would say
lol
Moving on, I’m sure I’ve read somewhere your dislike when you feel you’ve been misquoted. lol

Then, I asked a question, which you have chosen not to answer. How unexpected!
lol