Anniebach
What evidence here ?
Callistemon at 14.26.
This, in the news is breaking my heart.
I hope she comes home safe soon - but every passing day is such a worry.
Anniebach
What evidence here ?
Callistemon at 14.26.
No apology needed here Juicywords, none at all.
Germanshepherdsmum
Anniebach
What evidence here ?
Callistemon at 14.26.
That is not evidence though.
It is a known scenario in some cases.
That is a very strange one. Would someone at school not have noticed her exaggerated goodbyes and hugs at dropping off time if she were contemplating such an act?
I think the speculation on here is getting out of hand. There’s been nothing to suggest Nicola was hugging and kissing her daughters with exaggerated goodbyes when she dropped them off at school. Hopefully truth will out but if it is deemed to be suicide, it was probably an impulse. Maybe that’s the reason the phone was on the bench as some urge overcame her and…….Her partner did say in his tv interview that she would never have left the dog behind as they classed her as their third child. I doubt very much it was planned, IF that is what it is and not a third party involvement.
We don't know.
We may never know.
It's just so very sad for the family and friends.
Unless there is definite evidence of suicide, which seems unlikely in the absence of a witness to her entry into the river or a suicide note, the coroner will record an open verdict. We will be able to speculate on the basis of the evidence given at the inquest, but I suspect we will never know.
All I know is there are so many ... IFs, whys and maybes behind all our posts on here. No one will ever know for sure.
Unanswered questions, possible suggestions etc.
It's such a tragedy, for all those involved in such cases.
Yep, I got a bit carried away there tickingbird, but I have very occasionally had to take a parent quietly to my office first thing because I felt uncomfortable that the parent was not in a fit state to drive home after drop off. Overthinking everything now, and maybe this is what happens when minds go into overdrive.
A family friend committed suicide, without going into details it was obviously suicide, the inquest recorded an open verdict.
Pretty sure it will be a open verdict and no one will be any further forward the only one to know what was going through her head is her
But I do understand that suicide often happens when the person seems ‘up’ maybe they feel ‘up’ because they ve made a decision I don’t know maybe it all seems clear and the plan to have no more pain makes them almost ‘happy’ but is often not when they seem very down which s what most people expect
There is going to be a press release at 5.30
The diving team have issued a statement. I don’t understand why they were searching upstream of where it was thought Nicola fell in.
Wasn’t that the way the tide was flowing towards the sea
Upstream is surely away from the sea? The body was found downstream towards the sea where the special divers did not search.
I am still quite puzzled about why this particular disappearance has been subject to such a media frenzy when thousands of people disappear every year in this country - and most are hardly reported.
25Avalon
The diving team have issued a statement. I don’t understand why they were searching upstream of where it was thought Nicola fell in.
The diver says they were not instructed to look in the reeds. This reminds me of my OH who has to be told precisely where to look for something and never thinks to widen his search to another shelf or cupboard.
Good questiont: here is a relevant report:
From The Independent
Charity Missing People says “someone is reported missing every 90 seconds in the UK “, adding that “170,000 people are reported missing every year”.
It says that there are 353,000 reported missing incidents every year, of which more than 137,000 are adults and nearly 215,000 are children. These can be people who have gone missing more than once in a year.
The charity says: “Most of the people who are reported missing may be experiencing some kind of vulnerability or risk. This can be exacerbated by being missing, particularly where someone goes missing more than once.“
Sad outcome, very damining statement from the family about Press. Disgraceful behaviour from them.
Thoughts with that family.
The diver (I assume the specialist) says they were not instructed to look in the reeds? What sort of pathetic excuse is that? IIRC, he said if she was in the river his team would have found her. The only likelihood of that standing up is that she was washed out to sea and she was subsequently carried back by the tide. That’s a bit dubious I think. We will of course hear what the pathologist finds.
Yes sadly now we know - it was Nicola, and "there was no evidence of crime".
I'd rather the government and similar get involved take measures to stop red top reporting and what to me is cyber bullying than tear the police apart: they have made mistakes of course but did, mostly, do their best.
Most of all, I'd like to see more resources put into Mental Health Care, and healthcare/pubic health doing their very very best to promote a loving, "don't be ashamed, go for help"
Not everyone leaves a suicide note .sadly we have known a few young people who committed suicide and none left notes.
One , a young mother had been seen by a mental health professional on the morning that she jumped from a bridge .Apparently it was thought her Post Natal illness was under control .One young man was released from hospital after a failed attempt and drove his car into a wall on the way home .
Happy people ,on the surface ,are the ones to look after if they ahve had mental health issues ,they are it seems the ones who dont threaten to do it ,they just do
Many years ago we knew a young farmer who shot himself. He used to go to our village pub and was always so cheery - the life and soul of the party.
Very sad to read that she has been found. The family statement is very dignified, and also to the point about media intrusion.
I too hope that, if there is to be legacy from this tragedy, it is that mental health services are greatly improved.
I found nothing wrong in the statement that the lady was struggling with the menopause and with alcohol - but I was horrified at the huge reaction I read in occasional dips into Facebook, that spoke as though it was some shameful secret, something that was her fault.
I had previously thought that the world had moved on from thinking a mental health problem was down to LMF (lack of moral fibre), and was horrified to discover it had not.
'Dont be ashamed, go for help' is all very well. My GP couldn't get me out of her surgery quickly enough when I burst into tears and was shaking with anxiety and stress. I listen to TV doctors encouraging us to get help. There isn't much help out there in my experience. Poor Nicola.
2022, Thousands of calls to helplines for mental health could not be answered.
Joseanne. I wasn’t having a pop at you
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Very sad news but expected really. Now the family can grieve and I hold them in my thoughts.
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