Lanzarote says it is fed up with having so many British tourists visiting the island - and wants FEWER UK holidaymakers!

I've witnessed bad behaviour by tourists of all nationalities when overseas but I'm not going to label them all the same and say that only those wealthy who can afford upmarket accommodation should be allowed to travel abroad.

Just because tourists are British does not mean they are badly behaved and just because someone is not British does not mean their behaviour is impeccable either.

As for catering for more wealthy upmarket travellers - being better off does not always mean better behaved.
Nor does pricing people out of the market mean a better class of traveller either.

Some of our cheaper holidays when the DC were young were camping overseas, we never saw bad behaviour and we met some lovely people of many nationalities, including British.

Fleurpepper

At a resort in Sharm-el-Sheik, the pool attendant was a very educated young man from Cairo, a doctor. My friend and I, both from UK, witnessed the way people talked to him. Reminded us of Apartheid South AFrica 'oy, boy- bring us a beer and chips, chop chop'. And yes, we both apologised and talked to him a lotl Some of the stories he told us were truly shocking.

Keep digging!
I'm sure you'll find more 🙂

I agree, and so have we. And it has little to do with money or being posh either.

My DD and I went to Lanzarote many years ago. It was quiet and peaceful. We would hire taxis and drive out to some of the outlying villages where the food was wonderful.
In one restaurant there was a passageway where many bottles of wine were stored with no one in attendance.
My DD wondered how long those bottles would have been there in some places in the UK

Fleurpepper

I agree, and so have we. And it has little to do with money or being posh either.

So what is it to do with? 🤔

I'm genuinely puzzled.

Should the government be doing something about this in schools? Lessons on how to deport oneself when overseas?

Oh dear!

Very possible for holiday companies to vet groups, for instance. No over occupancy, no groups of more than 4 under 25s, no stag dos. And up decor and fittings and price accordingly, but not over top, to dissuade such groups. It can be done.

The theme is drink, if they did not offer cheap booze the louts would go somewhere else, it’s not complicated.

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

At a resort in Sharm-el-Sheik, the pool attendant was a very educated young man from Cairo, a doctor. My friend and I, both from UK, witnessed the way people talked to him. Reminded us of Apartheid South AFrica 'oy, boy- bring us a beer and chips, chop chop'. And yes, we both apologised and talked to him a lotl Some of the stories he told us were truly shocking.

Keep digging!
I'm sure you'll find more 🙂

Oh I could- like the stag do in Crete. That was quite something!
And we did apologise for them, again and again. Other clients were NOT amused.

Katie59

The theme is drink, if they did not offer cheap booze the louts would go somewhere else, it’s not complicated.

Remember the UK tourists a couple of years back complaining bitterly in the gutter Press about an all inclusive resort limiting alcoholic drinks at 8 per evening !?!

I was teaching Shakespeare this morning and this came up!

'Your Dane, your German, your swag bellied Hollander drink, ho! Are nothing to your English.'

Not to mention Hogarth's paintings of Gin Alley.

We're known for being drunks and always have been!

Fleurpepper

Katie59

The theme is drink, if they did not offer cheap booze the louts would go somewhere else, it’s not complicated.

Remember the UK tourists a couple of years back complaining bitterly in the gutter Press about an all inclusive resort limiting alcoholic drinks at 8 per evening !?!

No but you appear to have a remarkable memory for all and sundry bad things appertaining to the U.K. and its inhabitants.

(You should have stayed at the Ritz in Sharm el Sheik beautiful hotel and food not an oik in sight)

GagaJo

I was teaching Shakespeare this morning and this came up!

'Your Dane, your German, your swag bellied Hollander drink, ho! Are nothing to your English.'

Not to mention Hogarth's paintings of Gin Alley.

We're known for being drunks and always have been!

Give over Gagajo there are thousands and thousands of British tourists throughout the world, relatively few are drunken hooligans.

I am reminded of this phrase seek and ye shall find some posters take delight in doing down others.

Like I said upthread if these allegations we’re constantly repeated against Muslims, Jews or people of colour it would be racism, but hey ho open season on your fellow citizens.

Well as the story was plastered in all newspapers and News, it is not hard to remember. And I have a great memory- not so great as it was 6 drinks, not 8.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10766923/British-holidaymaker-says-trip-Majorca-ruined-binge-drinking-crackdown.html

I told you, I don't do posh holidays, so not one for The Ritz. We stayed at a small resort, with a navette to go to the reefs for snorkelling.

Because it's ok to laugh at ourselves!

But yes, British people on holiday ARE seen as louts with great frequency. Drinking, indiscriminate shagging and annoying the locals.

GG13- yes, there are. But the 'bad' ones, that give all of us a bad name- tend to stick to some resorts and regions.

Should the government be doing something about this in schools? Lessons on how to deport oneself when overseas?

I suspect that people who are rude and disrespectful overseas are pretty much the same at home.

Sad to say I actually know people who yell at 'foreigners' abroad - one is my brother. He's one of the 'sun and sand' brigade who has no interest in the country or the people. He once told my DM that foreigners 'get awkward and pretend not to understand English' and they're rude. He has quite a strong Welsh accent and speaks very quickly and it's possible people found him hard to understand and he got embarrassed. Happily for everyone abroad his difficulties with being understood have kept him in the UK ever since.

Urmstongran

Oh dear.
I think they may regret this statement. Brits abroad spend a lot of money.
What are your thoughts on this?

I am still puzzled. I mean I did not post this thread. But you did Urmstongran- what did you expect? You did ask for our thoughts on this. So we answered.

I remember you saying the same thing quite a few times in the past, about areas of Spain, btw.

Because it's ok to laugh at ourselves!
But I don't think Fleurpepper is laughing.

And I'm not either.

14:33Fleurpepper

Remember the UK tourists a couple of years back complaining bitterly in the gutter Press about an all inclusive resort limiting alcoholic drinks at 8 per evening !?!

Seems to me the main denominator in all this so called bad behaviour is you lol the places you frequent and eat and why are you reading the so called gutter Press, it always amazing me the posters who call the Daily Mail are the ones who read and know all the stories

I'd like to know why the doctor from Cairo was working as a pool attendant did you ask him?

Well it is not really funny, so no, I am not.

But I would not have dared or even considered postint such a thread. USG did and asked for our 'thoughts'. Were we only supposed to post 'thoughts' that she would agree with?

Yes, Callistemon21,
Wales is lovely at this time of year

But some areas (especially coastal ones) are also struggling with "too much of a good thing".
Some are making holiday homes pay extra council tax for example.

In 2021 U.K. residents took 19.1 million trips overseas (79% less than 2019)

The number of Britons arrested overseas in 2018 5,359, 2017 5,301 and 2017 5,568 (source Sky News latest figures I could find with a quick Google)

Callistemon21

^Because it's ok to laugh at ourselves!^
But I don't think Fleurpepper is laughing.

And I'm not either.

Lack of a sense of humour,?

I used to joke with my Mallorcan friends about British lager louts.

What should I have done? Defended their reprehensible behaviour?

Maudi

14:33Fleurpepper

Remember the UK tourists a couple of years back complaining bitterly in the gutter Press about an all inclusive resort limiting alcoholic drinks at 8 per evening !?!

Seems to me the main denominator in all this so called bad behaviour is you lol the places you frequent and eat and why are you reading the so called gutter Press, it always amazing me the posters who call the Daily Mail are the ones who read and know all the stories

I'd like to know why the doctor from Cairo was working as a pool attendant did you ask him?

I don't read the DM- but I looked for a quote to post here, and the first one was the DM.

As for the young Doctor from Cairo- he said he wanted to go and work abroad, and needed to learn English and could not afford to go on a course abroad. So he worked at a Hotel as body guard/pool attendant- to practice his English, and spend as much time as possible learning from books and tapes, etc, and earn his keep at the same time.

We had a similar case at the resort I was a Director at in the UK. From Poland. Also just qualified as a Doctor, and needing to learn English before he could apply for jobs in UK or USA. He worked as a waiter at the restaurant. I used to bring books with me when I went swimming there, and he arranged to have time off so I could tutor him after my swim (for free) and used to come home to discuss medical stuff with OH, and went to observe him at work a few times (with patient's approval).

Urmstongran if I were to visit Lanzarote and if I and my money was not made welcome I wouldn’t return simples.

(My late parents loved Lanzarote and visited most years, they were always warmly welcomed back to their hotel and fussed over by the staff, especially when step-father celebrated his 70th birthday there)