Shock result of latest polling

What we need are MPs with a modicum of intelligence. Age is immaterial.

Casdon the argument I heard was that the average age for new mps should be around 40 years. At moment it’s 50 years.

ronib

I heard a news item that suggested we had a number of bedblockers as mps. Mps who had sat for a long time and had no new ideas. What we need, apparently is an injection of younger more energetic representatives.

On the other hand, it’s also been suggested that candidates are being put off even standing for selection as the job of an mp is seen as being too hard.
Not only is there a danger to life, there’s also a public scrutiny of ministers which may act as a disincentive to potential candidates. Why bother? It’s a media circus.

I’ve looked at the age profile of MPs just now, and the argument doesn’t stack up.
commonslibrary.parliament.uk/house-of-commons-trends-the-age-of-mps/
I don’t think that if there are blockers it’s related to their age, because the average age of MPs is only around 50 - it’s more related to the fact that they can serve an indefinite number of terms as an MP once appointed.

The Lib-dems are taking scalps as well. Well done! Lib Dem’s

Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 50% (+4)
CON: 21% (-1)
LDM: 7% (-2)
RFM: 7% (=)
GRN: 6% (-1)
SNP: 4% (-1)

Why is anyone shocked by this? For the first time in many years I will NOT be voting Conservative at the next election, and many of my family and friends feel the same. I won't be voting for Labour either, but they remain odds on to achieve a landslide victory next time around. A combination of sleaze, corruption and downright dishonesty over the last few years have seen the Party I used to support terminally diminished. Frankly, all that Labour need to do now is to make as little noise as possible, to sit on their hands, and to wait for the keys to Number 10 to fall into their lap, courtesy of team Boris/Truss/Sunak/Zahawi et al. Depressing.

Daisy Anne The turn out for West Lancashire 2023 election was 22,639. The smallest turnout in its history.

What is the real situation?

I am surprised at the lack of questioning that has gone on about this article. This was a Poll carried out by People Polling for GB News. Don't those facts and the fact that the Torygraph - the great supporter of the 'Right' - is splashing what appear to be headlines that say how very, very well Labour is doing and how very, very well they are likely to do in an election, make you ask why?

I don't doubt the polling People Polling carried out, but they describe themselves as providing "services that enable clients to tap into public opinion in novel and systematic ways." This extrapolation was certainly novel. But you have to ask what use it is other than frightening some people off moving back to Labour because they may end up with another massive majority.

This all seems to me to be about managing their voters and nothing at all about the real situation.

Whitewavemark2 the turnout on Thursday in Lancashire was 31.3 percent. In 2019 for the general election it was 72 percent.
According to the Guardian.

Hardly an enflamed endorsement for either party?

10% swing to Labour in Lancashire by-election.

They retain their seat but get a huge swing.

I heard a news item that suggested we had a number of bedblockers as mps. Mps who had sat for a long time and had no new ideas. What we need, apparently is an injection of younger more energetic representatives.

On the other hand, it’s also been suggested that candidates are being put off even standing for selection as the job of an mp is seen as being too hard.
Not only is there a danger to life, there’s also a public scrutiny of ministers which may act as a disincentive to potential candidates. Why bother? It’s a media circus.

Varian I have to agree. It may be the only way to stop the boom- bust, chop-change policies that have been detrimental to our NHS and Education systems to name but two of the “victims” of FPTP.

So right Fleupepper

But we have had PR forums with little interest from the supporters of FPTP.

The Tories like it because they have been able to run the country like a dictatorship since the 2019 election where most voters voted against them but they got an 80 seat majority in the HOC.

The Labour Party supporters like FPTP because they think they can do the same at the next General Election

None of them are democrats.

In a democracy a government can only be elected by a majority of voters - not a minority.

The only two European countries which are not democracies because they still use FPTP are the UK and Belarus.

Shameful!

This is why we need a sensible form of proportional representation. The current FPTP system leads to very damaging see-saw politics.

I would like that no party has an overall majority, if this were to be the case our elected representatives would have to work together.

On the other hand a hung parliament can also lead to nothing being voted through and in that case scenario the U.K. would continue in uncertainty.

No mix up Casdon, Boris Johnson has been no better than he should be, and he definitely fulfilled all my expectations of a conservative prime minister, and my expectations for him were low as you can go.😁

Why are the polls shocking. Make total sense in the circumstances.

Granmarderby10

Absolute Power corrupts absolutely.
Sad to say this but within a very short period of time in 1997, Tony Blair proved this.
They had won with a landslide victory as I and everyone else it seemed (but the Tories) knew would happen.
I was jubilant at first but soon I began to worry about the new governments inability to tolerate criticism and protest.

I can’t help thinking you’ve mixed Tony Blair up with Boris Johnson.

Absolute Power corrupts absolutely.
Sad to say this but within a very short period of time in 1997, Tony Blair proved this.
They had won with a landslide victory as I and everyone else it seemed (but the Tories) knew would happen.
I was jubilant at first but soon I began to worry about the new governments inability to tolerate criticism and protest.

Whitewavemark2

varian

Wheniwasyourage

One problem is, just as in the Brexit referendum, too many people might think that a Labour government is a foregone conclusion and so will not bother to vote.

The Labour supporters who may not vote will include those without photo ID.

I think that the gerrymandering of constituency boundaries, the photo ID regulations, the huge backing for the Tory Party by 80% of the national newspapers and the colossal financial resources of the right wing "think tanks" funded by who knows????, but quite likely to be foreign billionaires who most definitely do not have the best interests of the UK at heart - all combined with the fact that Sunak is not Johnson and most certainly not Truss - could mean that support from voters for the Tories at the next election should never be underestimated.-

Yes.

Chickens must not be counted.

Nothing is certain.

At the moment the Tories are slaughtering their chickens, whilst Labour are sitting on their eggs rather than counting their chickens. Let’s hope they hatch. 🐓

varian

Wheniwasyourage

One problem is, just as in the Brexit referendum, too many people might think that a Labour government is a foregone conclusion and so will not bother to vote.

The Labour supporters who may not vote will include those without photo ID.

I think that the gerrymandering of constituency boundaries, the photo ID regulations, the huge backing for the Tory Party by 80% of the national newspapers and the colossal financial resources of the right wing "think tanks" funded by who knows????, but quite likely to be foreign billionaires who most definitely do not have the best interests of the UK at heart - all combined with the fact that Sunak is not Johnson and most certainly not Truss - could mean that support from voters for the Tories at the next election should never be underestimated.-

Yes.

Chickens must not be counted.

Nothing is certain.

MayBee70

We need a written constitution too don’t we? Everything in this country was based on people behaving honourably. But I’m afraid the age of chivalry is no more.

Yes

We shall all need a degree of patience and be prepared to re-elect Labour to get the job done

I doubt you'll get all to vote for Labour in a month of Sundays.

It's very good news that Labour is on track to become the next government. Even Dorries is running to a new job. I don't care who is in opposition. I care about our public services being improved though Labour will have to struggle with the mess the Tories are going to leave behind. We shall all need a degree of patience and be prepared to re-elect Labour to get the job done.

Way too early to predict anything

Wheniwasyourage

One problem is, just as in the Brexit referendum, too many people might think that a Labour government is a foregone conclusion and so will not bother to vote.

The Labour supporters who may not vote will include those without photo ID.

I think that the gerrymandering of constituency boundaries, the photo ID regulations, the huge backing for the Tory Party by 80% of the national newspapers and the colossal financial resources of the right wing "think tanks" funded by who knows????, but quite likely to be foreign billionaires who most definitely do not have the best interests of the UK at heart - all combined with the fact that Sunak is not Johnson and most certainly not Truss - could mean that support from voters for the Tories at the next election should never be underestimated.-