The King evicts Harry and his wife from Frogmore!

Smileless2012

Omid Scobie has said that two other members of the RF are appalled. Not named of course so maybe it's Archie and Lillibet, can't think of anyone else it could be.

Perhaps H&M could stay with The Appalled's if and when they visit UK?😄

The King has been patient beyond expectation. Good for him. He can make decisions now and good luck to him. Of course he should take back Royal Lodge as Andrew is no longer a working Royal. As for the whinging Prince, he has caused enough hurt to his father and he can pay his way now.

"@Germanshepherdsmum": Exactly!

Casdon

Glorianny

I think the RF should get a single property each and the rest should be sold off. The money they bring in should be divided between the largest cities in the UK with the proviso that it must be spent on social housing.

Why should the money you are proposing only go to the largest cities in the UK Glorianny, your response really surprised me in that you didn’t recognise the equal and in some cases greater needs of the small city, town and rural poor? I do appreciate we all have our prejudices though.

You could be right Casdon. I don't think my view was based on prejudice rather on the thought that big cities need large numbers of public service workers who are often under paid and who find accommodation difficult to afford, and that without decent affordable housing the hospitals etc would cease to function.
Perhaps the money should be allotted on the basis of the cost of housing in the area (but then would London get it all?)

Change may well be in the air Jaberwok. The Queen was stuck in the past, she may well have been a good monarch because she didn’t interfere in politics though it is apparent that she interfered rather more than is generally acknowledged but the monarchy needs to move on and not be stuck in the 1950s.

maddyone

BlueBelle

Well I don’t care who it belongs to they should all live in one and give the rest of them away to be used
Why does this rich rich family need all these bloody castles while people live in tents, I hate the awful discrepancies

Maybe you should be more concerned about the Saudi royal family and their multiple British homes Bluebelle.

Exactly maddyone and I repeat to BlueBelle that the Qatari royal family own four thousand properties in the UK.

How anyone can get in a flap about our own Royal Family having multiple homes in our own country is beyond me.

Ah okay merlotgran. So how does that work then? If the Royal Lodge is a crown property, so it doesn’t actually belong to the royal family, it belongs to the crown, which I think means the state, but they can have use of it during their lifetime, so how does it work that crown property can be left to someone? I’m puzzled.

The lease on this residence was gifted to H & M + a peppercorn rent, not the property itself which was not within the late Queens gift . That lease may well have caveats attached, which H & M have not adhered to. The lease on this property may well be coming up for renewal which is now,bearing in mind it is virtually standing empty,deemed inappropriate for H & M to continue with as they have their own home and life in America. If they want a home here, I would suggest they buy their own property with the millions they've made from trashing the RF. It is rumoured that the King is thinking about bequeathing Balmoral to the Scottish people, and just retaining Birkhall. We shall see, I think change is in the air with this king.

maddyone

Just checked, Andrew’s Royal Lodge does indeed have 31 bedrooms! I wonder how many rooms in total then? He certainly doesn’t need it. I wonder why the Queen gave it to him? Oh yes, her favourite!

I believe Royal Lodge was left to Andrew by the Queen Mother.

Just checked, Andrew’s Royal Lodge does indeed have 31 bedrooms! I wonder how many rooms in total then? He certainly doesn’t need it. I wonder why the Queen gave it to him? Oh yes, her favourite!

BlueBelle

Well I don’t care who it belongs to they should all live in one and give the rest of them away to be used
Why does this rich rich family need all these bloody castles while people live in tents, I hate the awful discrepancies

Maybe you should be more concerned about the Saudi royal family and their multiple British homes Bluebelle.

Glorianny

I think the RF should get a single property each and the rest should be sold off. The money they bring in should be divided between the largest cities in the UK with the proviso that it must be spent on social housing.

Why should the money you are proposing only go to the largest cities in the UK Glorianny, your response really surprised me in that you didn’t recognise the equal and in some cases greater needs of the small city, town and rural poor? I do appreciate we all have our prejudices though.

I'm a monarchist and wish King Charles a long and happy reign. But I do think it important that he downsizes the monarchy and hopefully this is the start of that. Why on earth Prince Andrew needs 31 bedrooms is utterly ridiculous.
I hope and believe that the King will make definite changes in some of the extravagance, and that could start with properties and estates.

I think the RF should get a single property each and the rest should be sold off. The money they bring in should be divided between the largest cities in the UK with the proviso that it must be spent on social housing.

I suspect it has to do with a general reorganisation by Charles, but in particular I think he wants to remove Andrew from his 30 room mansion and possibly install him in Frogmore Cottage instead, which is cheaper to rent/run. I have read that the Queen financed Andrew to the tune of a quarter of a million every year and maybe Charles wants to change that.

I think you have to factor in the cost of security for high profile people. On the estate it is easier to provide it and no doubt cheaper. If they are dotted all over the place then more security has to be provided, streets cordoned off etc when they are in residence.
This residence was 'gifted' to them by the late monarch. The new monarch does not have to stand by that decision. Andrew needs a secure home and it is cheaper to send him there. I don't think they have the same options of 'sending him to a monastery' as a monarch would have done in the past. Now, that I would like to hear our new monarch utter. 'Brother, get thee to a monastery.'

BlueBelle

Well I don’t care who it belongs to they should all live in one and give the rest of them away to be used
Why does this rich rich family need all these bloody castles while people live in tents, I hate the awful discrepancies

They may yet but in order to do so, he has to get them out first. I think if I had a family member constantly trashing me and the rest of my family for money, I’d do the same. Neither are to be trusted.

In time to come, maybe some properties will be made available to people from Ukraine, ex military people etc.

BlueBelle

Well I don’t care who it belongs to they should all live in one and give the rest of them away to be used
Why does this rich rich family need all these bloody castles while people live in tents, I hate the awful discrepancies

BlueBelle maybe you should be more concerned that the Qatari royal family own four thousand properties in the UK, rather more than our own Royal Family.

Because they are not just a 'rich family', they are our Royal Family.

While my DGD is unable to get on the housing ladder because of all the non-royal, frequently unoccupied holiday home owners where she lives and works, I get what you’re saying Bluebelle.
Do you think giving up some of their properties and setting an example from the ‘top’ would persuade others that they don’t need more than one house?

Well I don’t care who it belongs to they should all live in one and give the rest of them away to be used
Why does this rich rich family need all these bloody castles while people live in tents, I hate the awful discrepancies

Did I say otherwise?

Germanshepherdsmum

Crown Estate property does not belong to the nation Grany, it belongs to the monarch but he can’t dispose of it. Surplus revenue goes to the Treasury.

Crown Estate land is owned by the Crown. It is land that has always been owned by the Crown, as distinct from the person of the monarch, for the purposes of funding the government. It wasn't, is not and will not be the personal property of the Windsor-Mountbatten family.

Crown Estate property does not belong to the nation Grany, it belongs to the monarch but he can’t dispose of it. Surplus revenue goes to the Treasury.

Casdon

It’s too early to judge in my opinion. My guess is that this is part of the estate rationalisation plan and trimming back of finances the king is doing. Andrew can’t afford to keep on Royal Lodge without financial help. I’d wager if he moves to Frogmore Cottage, PoW will have Royal Lodge, and another property will be sold. M&H may well be offered something smaller, after all they are in the UK only very infrequently - maybe they will get use of PoW current small house on the Windsor Estate instead. It’s all about saving money I suspect.

Harry and Meghan will of course be just fine, they can and should look after themselves. But why is Charles doing this? It won’t save anyone any money. It won’t reduce the cost of the monarchy, and numerous other royals have large properties provided for them, including Andrew.