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Really. Is this what the country needs ?

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westendgirl Mon 06-Mar-23 10:19:32

What do Grans think of Boris Johnson putting forward his father for a lordship .

Lizzie44 Tue 07-Mar-23 11:51:18

Larry the cat is far more deserving of an honour than this bunch. The whole honours system stinks and should be abolished.

DeeDe Tue 07-Mar-23 11:51:57

GoldenAge

The really sad fact is that Johnson has behaved so preposterously and for so long that we have all become used to it and the voice of the sane amongst us will once again get drowned out by the normalisation of the process where the PM does 'his' magnanimous thing. What the heck are we doing with honours of this kind in our modern day? It's outrageous that we have them in my opinion, and equally so that BJ nominates his own father. The man has no credibility whatsoever.

Exactly

Cossy Tue 07-Mar-23 12:04:58

In terms of the honours system being totally abolished or a waste or only for “rich toffs” I have to disagree - many many unsung “normal, average” people receive honours every year for “good deeds” Anyone can nominate anyone and there have been many deserving recipients - charity workers, raising awareness and money, medical discoveries, services to various industries - what is love to see totally overhauled is our House of Lords - take out many of the old codgers and replace it with a combination of “decent” ex PMs and MPs (small number) and elect the remainder, ALL members should only serve for a specified period too, none of this lifelong rubbish - I do think we need a second house to oversee legislation and new laws

Coco51 Tue 07-Mar-23 12:14:10

Disgusting! If those are the depths to which the Knighthood has sunk it is no longer an accolade. If Sunak doesn’t block this he is condoning corruption. Mind you people were outraged when Blair was knighted and that didn’t stop it.

grandtanteJE65 Tue 07-Mar-23 12:36:10

Personally, I would love to see Larry the Cat in the New Year's honours list! And then we will all have to get used to calling him Sir Lawrence, or does he prefer Laurence?

Hopefully, Boris Johnson can forward who he pleases, but that does not mean that the person will be included in the Honour's list.

katy1950 Tue 07-Mar-23 12:54:45

I totally agree with you it's time it was abolished its out dated and quite frankly means nothing

Dylant1234 Tue 07-Mar-23 12:57:26

He’s taking the p* always has done. He holds the general public in contempt. Yet there are still fools who adore him - they deserve to be held in contempt after all he has done to wreck whatever decency was left in politics. It’s as if they’re in the grip of a cult …….

Delila Tue 07-Mar-23 13:13:22

Is there any mechanism for preventing him from making any nominations at all? Surely such nominations are a mockery.

MillieBoris Tue 07-Mar-23 13:18:07

I used to be a great fan of Boris but he is making a mockery of the Conservative Party. Anything to keep his name out there. Pity he doesn’t have the dignity of Theresa May or the vanishing powers of David Cameron.

deedee27 Tue 07-Mar-23 13:28:07

Outrageous nepotism…!!!!

Romola Tue 07-Mar-23 13:35:27

Isn't there some sort of panel or committee which approves or rejects nominations for honours? Or do PM's nominations just get rubber-stamped?
I think BJ nominating Stanley for a K is just disgraceful, but I don't think either of them cares two hoots about what the public thinks of them.

IrishDancing Tue 07-Mar-23 13:41:12

I’ve never had particularly strong feelings about scrapping the HoL but, in the wake of Johnson’s nominations, I think it is time to abolish it and start again. Absolutely disgusted by almost everything Johnson does, his contempt for the British people is total.

Amalegra Tue 07-Mar-23 14:09:40

Let’s face it the whole political system is not just an old boys network but cronyism and nepotism on top of that! And it’s not just in the UK either. Such elitist systems exist in most countries to a greater or lesser degree. Just consider how much money a candidate for the US presidency has to raise! A few favours owed there I think! But, yes our ‘honours’ system should be overhauled; it’s becoming a joke especially if a failed PM is allowed to exhibit such blatant nepotism. Perhaps our King should ask for some scrutiny of all these accolades awarded in his name. Surely the monarchy, whom we are all encouraged to respect (some more than others!), ought to have more relevance in the life of this country apart from feasting and feuds? Bearing in mind, they are after all, the supreme example of the Old Boys-or Girls-network!

Fleurpepper Tue 07-Mar-23 14:10:27

Please sign the petition and share, share, share - thanks

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MaizieD Tue 07-Mar-23 14:12:48

Romola

Isn't there some sort of panel or committee which approves or rejects nominations for honours? Or do PM's nominations just get rubber-stamped?
I think BJ nominating Stanley for a K is just disgraceful, but I don't think either of them cares two hoots about what the public thinks of them.

There is. I posted a link to it earlier today.

But, thinking of Lebdev, the PM appears to be able to over ride it.
Would Sunak veto Stanley's honour even if the committee passed it, I wonder...

micmc47 Tue 07-Mar-23 14:14:59

Why is anyone surprised by the totally unprincipled behaviour of this totally self-obsessed narcissist? As we have witnessed on numerous occasions, he has no moral compass whatsoever, and is a stranger to the truth. Beneath contempt.

Fleurpepper Tue 07-Mar-23 14:15:25

If 1000s and 1000s sign the petition in a couple of days, it would send a very strong message.

Coconut Tue 07-Mar-23 14:18:32

Jaw dropping arrogance …..

polly123 Tue 07-Mar-23 14:36:42

Absolute madness and you couldn't make it up. What a farce.

madeleine45 Tue 07-Mar-23 15:00:48

It would be more fitting if Stanley was given a prison sentence for foisting Boris on us! They are both an insult to those decent and deserving people who receive an honour for their good works and help of other people. Something neither of those two understand the meaning of. Maybe there is a special medal that says ME ME ME ME on it ? More suitable for them !!!

leeds22 Tue 07-Mar-23 16:27:57

Too awful for words but the whole honours system is totally devalued even without Johnson's latest contribution. Do we have Truss' list to look forward to?

Fleurpepper Tue 07-Mar-23 16:30:45

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please, do not forget the petition if you feel strongly about this.

silvercollie Tue 07-Mar-23 16:45:18

Just a minute, all you folk getting het up about Stanley Johnson's contribution to the World. Isn't he the chap who has done so much for World Conservation?
I read his Autobiography some years ago and admit I was surprised at his deeds.
So what is your problem people? Just because you don't like Boris surely does not take away his Father's achievements. And others have won accolades for far less.

Fleurpepper Tue 07-Mar-23 16:47:09

Over 13,500 in a day signed, wow. Keep it going.

Galaxy Tue 07-Mar-23 16:52:45

Not keen on men who break their wife's nose silver collie, bit picky of me I admit.