Polarisation of society

The government has lost the plot if it thinks people want money spent on pictures of Charles, in a cost of living crisis. £8 million. Some people would agree.

Charles spends your money every day, in return for little work & a lifetime of privilege, status and influence. He gets exempted from laws the rest of us have to follow and is beyond any serious accountability, while ignoring accusations of corruption.

Casdon. Have you been drinking?

At 07:44??? No I have not. Might be standard in your world but not in mine.

tickingbird when anyone says that to you on social media it means they’ve nothing worthwhile to say take it as a compliment.😄

Grany I get it you’re a republican, but you can’t seriously expect something like a coronation to cost ten quid.

Galaxy

I'm left wing, well centre left is probably more accurate, and I have routinely said that describing people in those terms is not acceptable. It's also politically and strategically utterly counter productive. But still they keep going.

👏🏻👏🏻

Also good comment Monica about arrogance on threads.
The I’m more clever than you brigade I call them.

Grany I get it you’re a republican, but you can’t seriously expect something like a coronation to cost ten quid. £ 100 million on coronation not needed he is already king. In poll many more people weren't interested in coronation than were. Then would you believe government spending £8million on pictures to be put in schools councils ect. With a cost of living crisis nothing spent on people living in poverty more food banks. That's all I'm saying.

Oreo

tickingbird when anyone says that to you on social media it means they’ve nothing worthwhile to say take it as a compliment.😄

In this case, no. When somebody doesn’t believe your reason for saying something, you explain why you did say it, provide them with the evidence that caused you to say it, and they admit they say it frequently but they still don’t believe your reason for saying what you did, I’m not sure what conclusion you think you should reach. Will let others draw their own conclusions in this very bizarre exchange.

M0nica

Fleurpepper I didn't say accept their views as equal, most of us have views and opinions that other people think are ridiculous. It is treating the person with respect and as an equal and not a lesser mortal because they are not as clever as the commentator - and some pretty nasty remarks have been made on this thread by people who are the ones causing polarisation in society.

I can only assume you didn't read my post. Views and opinions is one thing, we can agree to disagree.

Facts are facts. And nonsense is just ... well...

The earth is NOT flat, whatever your opinion of view is about it.

Just caught up on this. Really £8million on Charlie's picture in schools. When I first started teaching most schools still displayed the picture of Elizabeth (Annigoni?) they were given when she became queen. Can't remember seeing it in any of them when I retired. Will they have to display the one of Charles? Or can it be confined to the staff loo or a cupboard somewhere?
Wouldn't it have been great if £8 million had been spent on books or reopening libraries to commemorate his coronation.

Glorianny

Just caught up on this. Really £8million on Charlie's picture in schools. When I first started teaching most schools still displayed the picture of Elizabeth (Annigoni?) they were given when she became queen. Can't remember seeing it in any of them when I retired. Will they have to display the one of Charles? Or can it be confined to the staff loo or a cupboard somewhere?
Wouldn't it have been great if £8 million had been spent on books or reopening libraries to commemorate his coronation.

I do think this is a potty idea but it's a Government minister who has decided this, not the Royal Family.

I think that spending that £8 million on trees for schools would be Charles's preference.

Trees for schools would have been a great idea! And would almost certainly outlive Charles and any picture of him.

growstuff

Trees for schools would have been a great idea! And would almost certainly outlive Charles and any picture of him.

That's what the Royal Family often do if they open a school, hospital etc - plant a tree!

Grany wrote:
"Charles spends your money every day, in return for little work & a lifetime of privilege, status and influence. He gets exempted from laws the rest of us have to follow and is beyond any serious accountability, while ignoring accusations of corruption."

I am sure Charles is well aware of what you and I and most others think and knows that we know he is thinking about it all, and is working hard to serve as he ought to serve according to his principles which will be monarchist principles.
Politics is hard for me to understand so I like to read grans who know about monarchies and stuff like that.

PS Grany. I agree with you however I also believe Charles is one of the nicer monarchs.

Caleo

Grany wrote:
"Charles spends your money every day, in return for little work & a lifetime of privilege, status and influence. He gets exempted from laws the rest of us have to follow and is beyond any serious accountability, while ignoring accusations of corruption."

I am sure Charles is well aware of what you and I and most others think and knows that we know he is thinking about it all, and is working hard to serve as he ought to serve according to his principles which will be monarchist principles.
Politics is hard for me to understand so I like to read grans who know about monarchies and stuff like that.

Gransy is obviously ignorant of all the charity work Charles undertakes, in his position of" privilege. "

Charles spends your money every day,

My £1.50 per annum, um, how much is that per day?
£1.50 ÷ 365 = ?
My calculator is in the office, has anyone got one handy?

Good value, I say!
A President and all the trappings would cost just as much, not to mention yet more elections every four years.

Callistemon, I appreciate and understand that sort of practical realism.

Thank you.

And I still believe Charles would prefer schools to have a tree rather than a portrait of him 🌳🤴

Of course he would! He's not daft.

"We know from the 2020 Giving Evidence report that royal patronage makes no difference to charitable giving. It's time charities woke up to the fact they're being used as a prop in the royal PR machine."

In 2020 the organisation Giving Evidence produced an independent report which found royal patronage made no discernible difference to UK charities. The report is here: giving-evidence.com/2020/07/16/royal-findings/

Callistemon21

Thank you.

And I still believe Charles would prefer schools to have a tree rather than a portrait of him 🌳🤴

I'm sure some tree breeder could have come up with a new variant of something or other and named it after Prince Charles. That would have been a talking point for generations, so the trees and his name would have lived on long after we're all gone. Shame! (Maybe he'll do it anyway.)

I really don't want to see his picture in every public building I enter. I don't think they have portraits of his mother.

This policy may not be aimed at you growstuff.

I don;t think you are likely to be a regular reader of The Daily Express, The Sun, Daily Mail or Telegraph.

Grany

"We know from the 2020 Giving Evidence report that royal patronage makes no difference to charitable giving. It's time charities woke up to the fact they're being used as a prop in the royal PR machine."

In 2020 the organisation Giving Evidence produced an independent report which found royal patronage made no discernible difference to UK charities. The report is here: giving-evidence.com/2020/07/16/royal-findings/

Funny that because it was referring to 2019 when apparently 74% of the charities with royal patronage didn't get any royal public engagements.

And what happened in 2019? For most of the year we were advised not to mingle and to self isolate. So to my mind it's surprising that any charities, let alone 26% of those with royal patronage had any royal public engagements.

I volunteered for 20 years fundraising for Save The Children. Princess Anne was their Patron and very active. If she was attending an event it was easy to get people to turn and pay up in the hopes that they might meet her.

I believe that Princess Anne first visited our local "Save The Children" charity shop and has been back at least three times since then.

She first visited in the 1970s.