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Harry attending coronation alone.

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NotTooOld Wed 12-Apr-23 16:21:58

Is this the best outcome?

Foxygloves Sat 15-Apr-23 15:18:27

Most of us didn't have our Dads at our birthday parties unless they happened at the weekend -not necessarily the actual day - as Dads went to work - remember?
As for Grandparents, they might have been lucky enough to live close by, but not necessarily, mine were in another country!
As for who to leave Archie and Lillibet with, of course they all have Nannies. (And I don't mean grans)
No, its a deliberate snub statement by Meghan and while probably the right one, says clearly that she is NOT prepared to extend an olive branch or accept it.
How hypocritical those images of her future FIL leading her down the aisle seem now. It was never going to be Thomas Markle- this was a one woman show from start to finish.

Cynical, moi?

VioletSky Sat 15-Apr-23 15:20:42

Could it have been booked that day to try to manipulate the situation so they wouldn't come?

Although the press would have a field day whether they came or not

If a tree fell in the forest and there was no one around to hear it the Daily Mail would have a 3 page spread about how it's M&H fault

Oreo Sat 15-Apr-23 15:21:15

I would go with Harry to support him and also take the children, then do my damn best to be pleasant to all his relatives in a bid to build bridges.I would steel myself to ignore any booing from the crowds.
Meghan won’t do any of those things.

Sparklefizz Sat 15-Apr-23 15:40:59

GNetters seem to have forgotten how very much welcomed Meghan was in the UK when she first arrived on the scene. Crowds waiting to see her wherever she went. All those cheering crowds at her wedding, which she later said was a non-wedding and "just for the people".

I thought she was great at first, and Harry was my favourite, but out of their own mouths and with their own actions they have brought unpopularity upon themselves.

If I had said terrible things about my family and my inlaws, some/many of which were not true, and I had publicised those things all over the world, then I would be ashamed to show my face on a massive public occasion.

Harry has behaved as if he's doing everyone a favour by accepting his father's invitation to the Coronation, but he is also, of course, keeping up his currency for Netflix and any further books. How he can imagine he can breach his family's privacy over so many issues as he has done, and expect to be trusted and welcomed, I really don't know.

I certainly don't trust either of them and they are nothing to do with me, but when someone shows you who they are, believe them.

When Archie and Lili call his own parenting into question in future years, and ask why they don't know their relatives, perhaps he will have some understanding of how one can only be a "good enough" parent because there's no such thing as perfection.

NanKate Sat 15-Apr-23 15:52:02

I agree with you Sparklefizz.

Harry 👎 Meghan 👎👎

It’s what my mum would have called ‘washing your dirty clothes in public’.

Anniebach Sat 15-Apr-23 15:57:11

Some really believe the day of the coronation was chosen to make things difficult for the Sussex couple,

VioletSky Sat 15-Apr-23 16:02:09

On my part no, just forwarding it as a possibility

All sorts of shenanigans go on behind the scenes sometimes, it's not an impossibility

Callistemon21 Sat 15-Apr-23 16:04:01

Anniebach

Some really believe the day of the coronation was chosen to make things difficult for the Sussex couple,

Unbelievable, isn't it!
In fact, laughable.

The Coronation
Organisation involves ministers, the Royal Household, the Church of England and the Commonwealth Realms. A Privy Council “Coronation Committee” is usually formed to oversee the planning, and its Executive Committee is chaired by the Earl Marshal. This can take several months

Anniebach Sat 15-Apr-23 16:11:20

Thank you Callistemon yes laughable .

VioletSky Sat 15-Apr-23 16:14:47

The Firm

Jaberwok Sat 15-Apr-23 16:18:00

Tbh I agree Sparklefizz. These two were so popular and could have done so much for this country, and the Commonwealth which the late Queen gifted to them, at the same time remaining popular, important members of the RF. Money would not have been an issue so no need for tell all books, and interviews, family staying intact and children growning up knowing, and being fond of each other like the York girls and William and Harry were. As it is, Harry's children, apart from Doria, have no relations on either side that they are familiar with. The Wales children have lost their cousins and their once much loved Uncle. The King, his son, and grandchildren, all in all, very sad and disappointing.

Glorianny Sat 15-Apr-23 16:24:32

Ah yes-how popular they were. Now that couldn't possibly have put anyone else's nose out of joint could it???

Callistemon21 Sat 15-Apr-23 16:26:24

Jaberwok

Tbh I agree Sparklefizz. These two were so popular and could have done so much for this country, and the Commonwealth which the late Queen gifted to them, at the same time remaining popular, important members of the RF. Money would not have been an issue so no need for tell all books, and interviews, family staying intact and children growning up knowing, and being fond of each other like the York girls and William and Harry were. As it is, Harry's children, apart from Doria, have no relations on either side that they are familiar with. The Wales children have lost their cousins and their once much loved Uncle. The King, his son, and grandchildren, all in all, very sad and disappointing.

I have no criticism at all of Meghan and Harry going to live in America; it's what many young families do, emigrate. Most stay in touch and on good terms with their families.

Obviously Harry's circumstances were different to those of most young people and I can understand him wanting to avoid the press, publicity and stay out of the limelight.

That's why I find their subsequent publicity-seeking behaviour very odd.

Brismum Sat 15-Apr-23 16:31:05

I think you’ve got it right Dickens! She can’t do right for doing wrong in the matter of the Coronation. And if a previous poster is right and Camilla is worried about being upstaged by Catherine then she would be even more worried if Meghan was there as well, and the press would have a field day. I have no love for Camilla but she does her best for Charles and the late Queen supposedly liked and approved of her, although given that Camilla was going to be there and Charles has always said that she would be his Queen, it’s better that she was given the Royal seal of approval before the late Queen died. I shall enjoy watching the Coronation as we do ceremony and pageantry so well. I was six at the last Coronation and remember quite a lot of it, watching with the neighbours on my aunt’s very small tv. I remember being quite scared when the anointing took place under the canopy!

Jaberwok Sat 15-Apr-23 16:39:23

I think it's the only way they can earn the sort of money that will give them a millionaires life style. I too can understand them wanting to live in America, that's fair enough . Two of my cousins went to live in Australia, but both have kept on good terms wit us left in England, so much easier now with the internet, so that younger family members do know each other, meet up when possible, and generally stay in touch. With H & M there's no question of any family rapport now, or in the future, which is bewildering and sad.

Smileless2012 Sat 15-Apr-23 16:41:56

We went to one of those when we were staying with our DS in Aus. Galaxy. The dogs had a knickerdoggy glory and we had ice cream sundaessmile.

I'd go to support my husband Dickens, attend the ceremony, make a discrete exit and celebrate my son's 4th birthday when I got home.

Callistemon21 Sat 15-Apr-23 16:42:36

Jaberwok

I think it's the only way they can earn the sort of money that will give them a millionaires life style. I too can understand them wanting to live in America, that's fair enough . Two of my cousins went to live in Australia, but both have kept on good terms wit us left in England, so much easier now with the internet, so that younger family members do know each other, meet up when possible, and generally stay in touch. With H & M there's no question of any family rapport now, or in the future, which is bewildering and sad.

Yes, it's sad. ☹

They were both quite wealthy so perhaps didn't need to work but everyone needs a reason to get up in the morning.
Meghan could have gone back to acting and Harry could have been in demand in some capacity as an ex-Army officer.

Jaberwok Sat 15-Apr-23 16:54:26

There could well have been jealousy from another quarter which was difficult but that doesn't explain the almost cruel treatment of the late Queen when she was dying and specifically wished to see them, mis speaking about the King, Harry's father and other matters, unkind comments about his step mother, breaches of trust and privacy over private family matters. There's really no excuse for any of this, except,to make money. Even their mother hasn't been immune from the pursuit of financial gain. Not very good.

maddyone Sat 15-Apr-23 16:59:49

Dickens
Meghan may be ‘damned’ but why is that?

maddyone Sat 15-Apr-23 17:00:55

Anniebach

He will be damaged if he doesn’t have birthday celebrations but no problem that he doesn’t know grandfathers, uncles, aunts, cousins , no knowledge of his extended family.

So very true Annie. So very true.

Foxygloves Sat 15-Apr-23 17:17:42

VioletSky Sat 15-Apr-23 15:20:42
Could it have been booked that day to try to manipulate the situation so they wouldn't come ?

You are not being serious? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s NOT all about Meghan - even if she thinks that it is.

VioletSky Sat 15-Apr-23 17:25:23

Yes

I am being serious

I asked a question though, I have not made a statement

Dickens Sat 15-Apr-23 17:27:30

maddyone

Dickens
Meghan may be ‘damned’ but why is that?

I'm not disputing the reason maddyone, just pointing out that it doesn't much matter whether she comes or not.

The Coronation is about Charles - her being or not being in attendance is probably going to be a minor detail in the history annals.

Critics say she should come to "support" Harry - the last time she did that she was condemned for holding Harry's hand in public and would no doubt be criticised for making some gesture that people didn't approve of this time.

What I'm trying to say is that she's blotted her copy-book, well and truly, so whatever she does from now on will be the wrong thing. I doubt she'll 'recant', she'll not ever be forgiven, so it all becomes rather irrelevant to pretend that there's a right or wrong way for her to behave in relation to the Coronation because as I pointed out previous, she's already damned either way.

Callistemon21 Sat 15-Apr-23 17:50:59

VioletSky

Yes

I am being serious

I asked a question though, I have not made a statement

No.

Foxygloves Sat 15-Apr-23 17:51:08

VioletSky

Yes

I am being serious

I asked a question though, I have not made a statement

Yes fully aware of that. The clue was in the question mark. hmm