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Newspapers influence on voting in the EU referendum of 2016

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varian Thu 13-Apr-23 18:39:18

Most of the UK national press has a right wing pro-brexit bias.

However when this fact is raised on Gransnet many posters claim to be impervious to bias - as in "the newspaper I read does not effect the way I think or the way I vote"

Really?

www.statista.com/statistics/1072148/brexit-vote-by-newspaper-preference/

Gillycats Thu 13-Apr-23 20:48:41

So Volver3 you’re saying I’m not intelligent because I’m challenging a survey of 7,000 in a population of over 67,500,000. Having studied sociology at degree level I’m quite amused at your accusation.

Fleurpepper Thu 13-Apr-23 20:50:04

challenge those perhaps

We send £350m a week to Brussels
We can’t stop Turkey joining
We can’t stop a European army
We are still liable to pay eurozone bailouts
The UK rebate can be changed against our will
Our VAT exemptions will be ended
Cameron’s deal was not legally binding
EU law is adopted by unelected bureaucrats
We can’t control our borders in the EU
Criminals arriving in Germany can get EU passports and come over here
Health tourism costs us billions
EU needs UK trade more than vice versa
Past referendum results have been ignored
Auditors still refuse to sign off the accounts
CAP adds £400 to British food bills
British steel suffers because of the EU
Irish border will be unaffected by Brexit
UK can’t deport EU criminals
UK is always outvoted
60-70% of laws come from EU
Renationalisation of industries is impossible
We get no veto on future treaty change or integration
The budget ceiling can increase without our consent
We thought we were only joining a free trade zone

Gillycats Thu 13-Apr-23 20:50:46

Fleurpepper how much would we continued to have lost had we stayed in? Quite a bit to say the least.

Fleurpepper Thu 13-Apr-23 20:52:38

Compared to the disaster we are facing right now, very very little.

We have asked so often, but no-one has yet given a list of Brexit positives. And we have been told we are rude for asking again. Got your list ready?

volver3 Thu 13-Apr-23 20:54:06

Did you do any stats?

Do you have a grasp of the concept of quantitative margins of error?

Can you explain representative sampling? This'll help: www.investopedia.com/terms/r/representative-sample.asp#:~:text=A%20representative%20sample%20is%20a,

Having actually worked for a while as a market analyst, I'm amused at your defence.

Gillycats Thu 13-Apr-23 20:55:10

Volver3 well if you are being personal I forgive you. You are so rude and often quite unpleasant to others that I think it must be awful to go through life like that. It’s one thing to have a discussion but once you get personal, as you are, you’ve lost your argument.

volver3 Thu 13-Apr-23 20:57:20

Did you learn all that in sociology?

I am sick fed up of people who parrot the "that's not enough people" trope without the slightest regard to statistical sampling. And sorry, you're one.

Gillycats Thu 13-Apr-23 20:57:48

The very fact that you are asking me if I did any stats Volver3 is funny!

Gillycats Thu 13-Apr-23 20:59:12

No Volver3, you’re not sorry in the least. It’s what you enjoy - trying to make others look small because they don’t have the same views as you.

Fleurpepper Thu 13-Apr-23 21:00:02

volver3

^It’s so disrespectful to keep panning people who voted out. Like we’re some kind of dumb-assed morons.^

I'm saying nothing. 🤐

Now that was very rude and personal, and didn't come from either Volver or me, lol. Leave you to it.

Gillycats Thu 13-Apr-23 21:01:47

Well it did Fleurpepper. And it’s rude.

volver3 Thu 13-Apr-23 21:02:49

Gillycats

No Volver3, you’re not sorry in the least. It’s what you enjoy - trying to make others look small because they don’t have the same views as you.

No, you're right. I'm not sorry at all.

I guess I'm too polite for my own good.

Fleurpepper Thu 13-Apr-23 21:36:10

Gillycats

Well it did Fleurpepper. And it’s rude.

No it did not- your own words entirely. Very rude.

Galaxy Thu 13-Apr-23 21:41:03

Do you know how you spund? I voted remain but dear god.

Galaxy Thu 13-Apr-23 21:41:30

So irritated couldnt spell soundgrin

VioletSky Thu 13-Apr-23 21:45:40

I don't think anyone foresaw just how long we'd be arguing about Brexit

It was a very silly thing to do

I'm not mad anymore, I'm just hurt

Oreo Thu 13-Apr-23 21:49:23

Gillycats

Perhaps we could look at how not to be insulting and referring to intelligent people as being hard of thinking?? Or is that too much to ask for?

I’m with you Gillycats but it sure is too much to hope for on forums where goady posts and insults from the permanently pissed off remainers is always the order of the day.
Tbh I feel a bit sorry for them, they’ll never get over Brexit.😉

Oreo Thu 13-Apr-23 21:50:47

Galaxy

Do you know how you spund? I voted remain but dear god.

Yup, me too.👏🏻👏🏻

VioletSky Thu 13-Apr-23 21:51:15

Oreo please explain how that is any better?

Oreo Thu 13-Apr-23 21:55:05

Just tellin’ it how it is on forums VioletSky and has been for the last 7 years.

Fleurpepper Thu 13-Apr-23 21:55:13

Oreo

Gillycats

Perhaps we could look at how not to be insulting and referring to intelligent people as being hard of thinking?? Or is that too much to ask for?

I’m with you Gillycats but it sure is too much to hope for on forums where goady posts and insults from the permanently pissed off remainers is always the order of the day.
Tbh I feel a bit sorry for them, they’ll never get over Brexit.😉

Try again, it won't work.

It is not remainers that will never get over Brexit, it is the whole country, and especially the ones that were sold the lies, and believed them because they live in parts of the country which have really suffered and are now the worst hit. I do feel very sorry for them in particular.

Can argue about stats, but those who still believe Brexit was a good thing for the country is a very small minority currently. Fact.

Fleurpepper Thu 13-Apr-23 21:57:31

Oreo

Just tellin’ it how it is on forums VioletSky and has been for the last 7 years.

Not surprising, as 'project fear' has proven to be 'project total disaster even much worse than predicted. Are you expecting people to just lie down and think of England, and take it on the chin and have a giggle? No way.

VioletSky Thu 13-Apr-23 21:58:15

I don't understand why people happy to make personal and inflammatory comments complain about personal and inflammatory comments

It's like being stuck on a merry-go-round

volver3 Thu 13-Apr-23 21:58:26

they’ll never get over Brexit.😉

Well neither will you, or anybody else in the UK, you just don't seem ready to admit that yet.

VioletSky Thu 13-Apr-23 22:01:25

True, we can mud sling all we want about Brexit but we are all already wallowing in the the soil and water based outcome