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Senior Tories want Braverman to stop her racist rhetoric

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 14-Apr-23 09:16:11

They are worried that her rhetoric will put off swing voters, as well as ruin the image of the Tory party.

I think that boat sailed months ago.

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 15-Apr-23 11:20:57

Sadly, nanna8, I expect that most posters on this site are not able to address this problem of lowering birthrates directly any longer.

Wyllow3 Sat 15-Apr-23 11:22:32

Yes, they do, I've just looked it up MaizieD. Do you recall quite recently the official visit of a politician from Perth, specifically over to recruit UK trained doctors?

Here's a key agency working over there (and here)
www.austrade.gov.au/australian/tourism/develop-your-workforce/recruit-overseas-workers

LadyHonoriaDedlock Sat 15-Apr-23 12:51:26

She's in the position she's in, promoted way beyond her ability, because she's a "useful idiot" for the Conservative Party, or more specifically for the government. Look, we have a dark-skinned Home Secretary, we can't be racist! Dark-skinned people come from a wide variety of backgrounds and there's not a lot of love lost between some of them (especially for Pakistani Muslims). She's from a very middle-class Kenyan/Mauritian India background and she married wealth, so has little in common with working-class Asian and Caribbean people in deprived communities, but that is a subtlety lost on the target audiences in Stoke and Hartlepool.

Grantanow Fri 28-Apr-23 17:27:37

Braverman's unwillingness to establish safe and legal routes for asylum seekers - including likely refugees from Sudan - says it all.

choughdancer Fri 28-Apr-23 21:23:37

volver3

GrannyRose15

What do you think are the main problems facing the country then, MayBee70? Housing shortage? Lack of school places? An overwhelmed NHS? Low pay? High taxes? Couldn’t all these be eased if there were fewer people in the country?

Can I answer? Maybee will probably come along later.

Underfunded NHS, polluted environment, disastrous economic situation, cost of living crisis.

Perhaps you will explain how 50,000 people arriving in the UK caused that? (That's just 0.07% of the population, by the way, and the £6million it is costing a day is £2bn a year which is less than 5% of what we squandered on a Test and Trace system that doesn't work. )

This.

choughdancer Fri 28-Apr-23 21:28:59

MaizieD

^So it is alright to rely on immigration instead of training enough people to do the jobs that need doing. We have had that attitude in the NHS for over seventy years^

Just remind me, GrannyRose, which party in government abolished the bursaries for nurses, discouraging them from entering the profession with the prospect of having to pay back their student loans out of the poor wages it offers. And which party in government froze those wages?

I appreciate that you don't think that we've had 'proper' tory governments for the last 13 years, so what would a 'proper' tory government have done?

Exactly.

Freya5 Sat 29-Apr-23 08:56:56

choughdancer

volver3

GrannyRose15

What do you think are the main problems facing the country then, MayBee70? Housing shortage? Lack of school places? An overwhelmed NHS? Low pay? High taxes? Couldn’t all these be eased if there were fewer people in the country?

Can I answer? Maybee will probably come along later.

Underfunded NHS, polluted environment, disastrous economic situation, cost of living crisis.

Perhaps you will explain how 50,000 people arriving in the UK caused that? (That's just 0.07% of the population, by the way, and the £6million it is costing a day is £2bn a year which is less than 5% of what we squandered on a Test and Trace system that doesn't work. )

This.

They didn't cause that, but are greatly exacerbating the problem. Are you all saying we should build more houses just to accommodate these people. Does any other country do this. Test and trace did work, or how come I and others got notified. Only time it didn't work, people refused to use it.

growstuff Sat 29-Apr-23 11:58:13

Just because "Test and Trace" worked for one person (out of 66 million) doesn't mean that it worked as a system or justified the amount it cost.

growstuff Sat 29-Apr-23 12:01:27

And, no, the country shouldn't be building more houses specifically for people who arrive on small boats. It should be building more houses and have a proper housing policy in place anyway. The people arriving on the small boats might even include people who could help build them, as there's a general shortage of people in the building industry. They make up a very small percentage of those needing housing - and aren't even the biggest group of immigrants to the country.

Grantanow Tue 02-May-23 12:40:01

Braverman is Sunak's voice to the anti-immigration and racist elements in the population. She keeps their attention and support for the Tories while he plays the one nation card to the rest.