Bannau Brycheiniog. Yes or no.?

Callistemon I just googled and yes the pub, read further on,
he had 24 daughters ! I remembered he had married a Gladys because I had an aunt Gladys, but 24 daughters and many sons , explains 3 wives

dinahmo I think you missed my point. Obviously if you go to a country you need to know what name to look for on a map. If anyone doesn't then that is just stupidity, rather than arrogance, like people who watch their children dig deep holes on beaches and then are aghast and petrified when the sides collapse burying, or partially burying their child.

But most of the examples I gave were what other countries call places in England, rather than what we call places outside this country. There are very few countries who do not have these kinds of names in their language and many have a history buried deep in time.

Anniebach

Callistemon I just googled and yes the pub, read further on,
he had 24 daughters ! I remembered he had married a Gladys because I had an aunt Gladys, but 24 daughters and many sons , explains 3 wives

24 daughters!! Just imagine the fight for the well water 😲
And sons too
Even those three wives must have been exhausted.

I had three Aunt Gladys's (it was a popular name in the early 1900s).

Just to clarify, in case anybody is still confused.
The signs for the Brecon Beacons have always had Bannau Brycheiniog on the sign as well, it’s not a new name, just that the national park is now to be known by the Welsh name not the English version.

Pen y Fan is still a beacon, it was last lit for the Queens Jubilee last year - there are quite a few in this area which is probably why it became known as the Beacons originally. King Charles has decided that the beacons won’t be lit for the coronation because he wanted it scaled down.

Brecon town is called Aberhonddu in Welsh, with Breichiniog being the medieval name for the kingdom of South Wales.
Pen y Fan is the highest peak of the Beacons, and is not the same mountain as Sugar Loaf, which is near Abergavenny, about 20 miles from Pen y Fan, but still within Bannau Breichiniog. Sugar Loaf is also a beacon.

I've climbed Sugar Loaf with a crowd of young children, don't think I'd have attempted to go up Pen y Fan with them.

Moel Famau, though, which can easily be seen from the Wirral Peninsula, is only ever called by its Welsh name as far as I know.

Callistemon21

I've climbed Sugar Loaf with a crowd of young children, don't think I'd have attempted to go up Pen y Fan with them.

Definitely not - although I have seen idiots going up the lower footpaths in flipflops and high heels. Keeps the Mountain Rescue team busy.

The last time I went up Sugar Loaf was the hard way with DH (he was leading). We stopped for lunch and a sheep came and snaffled my sandwich 😁

Grandma70s

Moel Famau, though, which can easily be seen from the Wirral Peninsula, is only ever called by its Welsh name as far as I know.

You are correct Grandma70s I used to live very near Moel Famau.

Aldom

Grandma70s

Moel Famau, though, which can easily be seen from the Wirral Peninsula, is only ever called by its Welsh name as far as I know.

You are correct Grandma70s I used to live very near Moel Famau.

Right then, so who's off walking in The Bannau next weekend?

Because very few people will use the full name apart from those in charge of the National Park and Michael Sheen.

Aren’t we supposed to be calling Snowdon Yr Wyddfa now?

MrsKen33

Aren’t we supposed to be calling Snowdon Yr Wyddfa now?

Probably!

But I've yet to hear anyone say they're off to visit the family up in Eryri.