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multicolourswapshop Fri 28-Apr-23 18:21:01

That Douglas Ross does my head in and the conservatives they’ll never get back in not in a million years

ronib Sun 30-Apr-23 10:07:55

More portable too

volver3 Sun 30-Apr-23 10:11:08

No ronib, let me explain.

In a discussions about how badly Darien went, and how it led to the Union of the Parliaments being easier to achieve for the upper classes, you have made the assumption that bagpipes are somehow representative of the Scottish nation.

On a morning when Grans are getting upset at the depiction of an ex-BBC employee because it's anti-semitic, try to appreciate that recourse to stereotypes is not a sensible debating strategy. Or even funny.

Mollygo Sun 30-Apr-23 10:13:26

ronib thanks for the info on the Darien Scheme. I had never heard of it.
V3 thanks for the Bank holiday weekend entertainment.

ronib Sun 30-Apr-23 10:21:05

Volver 3 you are the one as usual making assumptions. I am usually very impressed when I hear bagpipes being played well.
Also if the Scots thought Harris Tweed an essential item, presumably part of their heritage, why not bagpipes?

ronib Sun 30-Apr-23 10:22:40

Mollygo somehow the Darien Scheme has not been included on any history syllabus in England. I wonder why?

volver3 Sun 30-Apr-23 10:25:39

Oh dear.

Harris tweed was a heavy material that was essential for surviving Scottish winters, not a "part of their heritage". They thought it was necessary for survival.

Bagpipes? I don't know if they had any or not.

But the belief that they would be likely to take them with them because they are portable, and after all they are Scottish... I'm speechless.

ronib Sun 30-Apr-23 10:28:51

Well speechless would be good.

volver3 Sun 30-Apr-23 10:33:19

Well your prayers are answered.

For a while.

ronib Sun 30-Apr-23 10:34:27

Have a google on Scottish bagpipes and their essential role in Scottish fighting etc

volver3 Sun 30-Apr-23 10:36:47

ronib I'm just laughing now.

Really, do you think you are telling me things I don't know and that I need to google?

Now look what's happened. I'm not being speechless 🤣🫢

Aveline Sun 30-Apr-23 10:53:55

Yellow fever nothing to do with the English

Callistemon21 Sun 30-Apr-23 10:56:52

volver3

Callistemon21

Mollygo

Thanks Oreo. You’re still allowed an opinion on GN.🤗

And, of course, we are still awaiting a correct definition of the main purpose of the Scottish National Party, if it has changed recently, from those who are better informed than the rest of us elsewhere.
Please.

The SNP is the party of independence. We want Scotland to take her place as an equal, independent country. To be in the global family of nations, playing our part in building a better world." #SNP20
^3:32 PM · Nov 30, 2020^

Did I say the comment was wrong?

Just wondering if the poster thought she was being clever and criticising, or maybe telling us all something we didn't know?

Did I say the comment was wrong?

Well, the tone of your reply and the hmm would indicate that it was.

So Oreo was correct then?

Callistemon21 Sun 30-Apr-23 11:05:34

ronib

Mollygo somehow the Darien Scheme has not been included on any history syllabus in England. I wonder why?

Well, I learnt about it at school but it was in the dim and distant past.

Many places in former colonies have Scottish names, had Scottish governors, Scottish regiments were involved, so I think the Scots may have had some part in British Empire building.
🤔

ronib Sun 30-Apr-23 11:07:59

Volver 3 did not mean you only to google bagpipes…. Clearly part of Scottish identity and culture and thought others needed to explore a bit if remotely interested. Possibly not by now.

Your comment on ex Bbc employees and anti Semitism and talking about bagpipes as a stereotype which was somehow bad seemed a bit adrift. Not worth worrying about really.

Oreo Sun 30-Apr-23 13:46:41

volver3

Callistemon21

Mollygo

Thanks Oreo. You’re still allowed an opinion on GN.🤗

And, of course, we are still awaiting a correct definition of the main purpose of the Scottish National Party, if it has changed recently, from those who are better informed than the rest of us elsewhere.
Please.

The SNP is the party of independence. We want Scotland to take her place as an equal, independent country. To be in the global family of nations, playing our part in building a better world." #SNP20
^3:32 PM · Nov 30, 2020^

Did I say the comment was wrong?

Just wondering if the poster thought she was being clever and criticising, or maybe telling us all something we didn't know?

Well, the rest of us knew, but it seems that you don’t. Independence is their holy grail.

volver3 Sun 30-Apr-23 13:51:01

Are you being serious?

You're telling us that a political party whose main raison d'etre is independence, are focussed on trying to bring about independence. And you think you've stumbled upon the truth of the ages so you'd better let everybody know?

Crikey.

ronib Sun 30-Apr-23 14:17:21

Did you know that England paid £398k to Scotland as part of the Act of Union 1707 settlement to help ease the burden on the English?? economy.
What I wonder is if that payment is contingent on staying in the Union? Or can we have it repaid with interest and inflation?

Oreo Sun 30-Apr-23 14:33:50

Am I being serious ? Hmmm, let me think while I have a burst on my bagpipes.

ronib Sun 30-Apr-23 14:48:17

£77,091,574.71p without interest would be due to the English economy if debt repaid by Scotland on leaving the Union - taking inflation into account.

Jaberwok Sun 30-Apr-23 16:56:24

Union of the Crown was in 1603 after the death of Elizabeth
1st, not 1606. In October 1604 James decreed that he would in future be known as King of Great Britain and not by the dividing names of England and Scotland. In Nov 1605 the gunpowder plot,. In 1606 James gave orders for a British flag to be created resulting in the Union Jack, Jack being a shortening of Jacobus,the Latin version of James.

Grantanow Mon 01-May-23 12:07:15

I see from the Telegraph that the Donald has landed at Aberdeen. Perhaps he has come to help the SNP between rounds of golf. He made some comment about it being great to be home.

ronib Mon 01-May-23 14:45:47

Donald greeted by two bagpipe players! Of course

multicolourswapshop Wed 03-May-23 09:06:23

The flags🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 are out blowing in the wind

Callistemon21 Wed 03-May-23 10:35:25

multicolourswapshop

The flags🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 are out blowing in the wind

Why?

Katek Wed 03-May-23 10:50:56

Pipers please, not bagpipe players! grin