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I’m not counting my chickens

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 05-May-23 08:09:10

But after all the years of watching the destruction of everything I and the majority it seems hold dear, at last there might be light at the end of a very dark tunnel.

The Tories are on course to lose over 1000 seats.

The madness of the past decade might be coming to an end.

nightowl Thu 11-May-23 14:34:21

Let’s be honest Iam, most people’s views/ posts are entirely predictable on these threads and the threads do become a bit like Groundhog Day, with personal insults thrown in. I decided a long time ago to largely avoid them for that reason.

I think the local elections demonstrated an increase in support for the Greens, and it has been noted that they may be attracting not only young people who care about the environment but also socialists who feel disenfranchised by the current Labour Party. It will be interesting to see whether this translates to votes in the general election.

Iam64 Thu 11-May-23 18:42:28

Good point nightowl.

I will vote Labour, because I’m in a red wall constituency where the Tory majority is just less than 400. I’d vote Lib Dem if they were most likely to beat a conservative. I’ve voted green in local elections.
It’s good to see the Greens getting positive attention. I’d prefer a Labour majority next time but would like to see a move to proportional representation.

MayBee70 Thu 11-May-23 19:54:58

I’m just worried that a lot of people will vote for the Green Party as a sort of protest vote against the government and all it will do is stop the Labour Party from forming the next government. Just as many people voted for Brexit as a protest against the government even though many of them were the very people that benefitted most from being in the EU.

Iam64 Thu 11-May-23 20:09:55

MayBee70 hence my question to Grany. Any vote that lets a Tory in worries me. I don’t understand how a left leaning voter could do anything other than vote tactically to get them out. Look at the state of the nhs and public services and do anything but keep them out

Casdon Thu 11-May-23 22:13:22

MayBee70

I’m just worried that a lot of people will vote for the Green Party as a sort of protest vote against the government and all it will do is stop the Labour Party from forming the next government. Just as many people voted for Brexit as a protest against the government even though many of them were the very people that benefitted most from being in the EU.

I don’t see that happening, what I see is a rise in Lib Dem seats in the south Tory heartlands. I don’t think the Greens will get more than 5 seats, I’d be surprised if they get that many. Most seats in England will be a straight Tory/Labour or Tory/Lib Dem fight. Reform seem to have faded into oblivion.

nightowl Fri 12-May-23 10:59:52

Iam I agree with many of your points. I too will vote Labour, because we at last have a local candidate, prepared to act for the constituency and a good friend of my husband so I feel confident that he is genuine and honourable (although they disagree strongly on many points of Labour policy).

But I am drawn to the Greens and I have made no secret of the fact that I am disillusioned with the current LP so I will watch with interest. Our prospective GP candidate is also local but my primary motivation at the next election will be to get rid of our current non-local useless MP and this dreadful government.

Iam64 Fri 12-May-23 20:57:32

Nightowl, we have a local candidate, a neighbour, someone I know and like. Her husband a teacher in a local high school, they have a baby and really understand the issues. Fingers crossed she wins it back from the Tory. I’m taking nothing for granted. I’d welcome a move to PR of sone kind. It feels wrong that we can end up with a government the majority didn’t vote for

Fleurpepper Sat 13-May-23 18:44:46

Iam64

MayBee70 hence my question to Grany. Any vote that lets a Tory in worries me. I don’t understand how a left leaning voter could do anything other than vote tactically to get them out. Look at the state of the nhs and public services and do anything but keep them out

Indeed. Hence the need for an alliance, if not a full one- a tactical voting one.

Iam64 Sun 14-May-23 13:20:55

That’s what several of us have posted

M0nica Sun 14-May-23 16:54:31

I am fortunate, the strongest opposition in our area is Lib Dems, but my dislike of Labour is as visceral as my dislike of the Conservatives. I could never bring myself to vote for either

A curse on both their houses.