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The police has apologised over the arrest of the republican group

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-May-23 05:13:58

The Met has sent a letter of “regret” over the arrest of over 60+ people on Saturday.

As I said in another thread.

The police acted like idiots.

However, I am more interested in what prompted the police action, as nothing in the run up to the coronation where, both parties were actively cooperating, suggested that this would happen.

As I said - Braverman’s hand is all over this.

Aveline Tue 09-May-23 16:00:17

I don't know. It felt sinister to me just looking at those vacuum packs of placards. Not the work of keen amateurs.

Katie59 Tue 09-May-23 16:02:28

I was speaking to a young woman about an hour ago, just a chance meeting chatting to a friend. Friend asked me if I enjoyed the Coronation, (it was a loaded question) “yes I enjoyed it very much”.

Other young woman had the opposite view, so I asked “ if you could would you have disrupted the coronation”, answer Yes.

Anniebach Tue 09-May-23 16:05:00

It was Grany who spoke of the money pouring in.

Fleurpepper Tue 09-May-23 16:18:35

Katie, only just over 30% of young people are in favour ofMonarchy. So by the time of the next Coronation, what % will it be?

I can fully understand that young people feel that this huge display of pomp at such huge cost, was a slap in the face of all those struggling with the cost of living, à la 'let them eat Cakism'.

HousePlantQueen Tue 09-May-23 16:18:52

I haven't read this entire thread, but speed read it so to speak, and I am horrified by the number of people on this forum who are like nodding donkeys to this appalling last minute legislation, courtesy of our ghastly Home Secretary. Are you not frightened about just where this may lead? What about when you attend one of your nice middle class protests about asylum seekers being housed in your village? Will you be happy when the Police turn up, take your home made placards, your whistles, your thermos of scalding tea which could be used as a weapon? Or does your support of this atrocious anti-democratic act only apply when it is 'riff raff'? Riff raff like the several doctors who were interviewed as they were being led away?

Fleurpepper Tue 09-May-23 16:19:42

The cost of those placards would be incredibly minute in comparison.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 09-May-23 16:24:15

Read the Act HPQ. It’s not what you think (or should I say, it’s not what some would like you to think). It’s better to be informed by the source than by biased commentary.

fancythat Tue 09-May-23 16:32:32

What is the difference between the new Act and the old Act?

Why did the Police supposedly use the old Act and not the new one?

Do the foot Police know what is in the new one? Or dont they have to, only the higher ups?

What is the legislation, old or new, that means someone can get arrested as they might get up to something dodgy?

I dont expect most people to know the answers.
But I do have questions about what happened, and why, and would it again, and in what circumstances etc.

HousePlantQueen Tue 09-May-23 16:32:49

I read, I research the same way as you do. You were, I believe, one of those rehashing the popular press line about the rape alarms; the ones carried, legally by the Westminster Night Team, as approved and supported by the Metropolitan Police, so maybe you too, should take care you are 'not informed by biased commentary'

Fleurpepper Tue 09-May-23 16:33:45

but it is also important to see how some Police chose to interpret it- or mis-interpret it- leading to apologies.

I am all in favour of apologies when you've done something wrong. But I would never be in favour of 'let's do it, we can just apologise later' - be it on a personal basis, or an official one.

Katie59 Tue 09-May-23 16:36:59

Fleurpepper

Katie, only just over 30% of young people are in favour ofMonarchy. So by the time of the next Coronation, what % will it be?

I can fully understand that young people feel that this huge display of pomp at such huge cost, was a slap in the face of all those struggling with the cost of living, à la 'let them eat Cakism'.

Doesn’t mean anything, most youngsters are socialist - until they learn the real world does not revolve around the teachings of Karl Marx

Mollygo Tue 09-May-23 16:37:03

So according to your latest post HPQ, the republican protestors carrying the rape alarms were all members of the Westminster Night Team. Do they work during the day too?

HousePlantQueen Tue 09-May-23 16:43:16

Mollygo

So according to your latest post HPQ, the republican protestors carrying the rape alarms were all members of the Westminster Night Team. Do they work during the day too?

I will have a look and let you know, but, extraordinary as it may be to some, there are people who give up occasional evenings, their spare time, to volunteer for the benefit of others. We have a similar team in the city near here, good people who make sure that girls and women are safe when out and about at night. Even more extraordinary is the fact that these volunteers are employed! Not on benefits, would you believe it!

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 09-May-23 16:43:48

It’s abundantly clear that you either haven’t read the Act or haven’t understood it. If you had you wouldn’t make the comments that you have. And no, I place no reliance on biased commentary.

Fleurpepper Tue 09-May-23 16:44:03

Katie59

Fleurpepper

Katie, only just over 30% of young people are in favour ofMonarchy. So by the time of the next Coronation, what % will it be?

I can fully understand that young people feel that this huge display of pomp at such huge cost, was a slap in the face of all those struggling with the cost of living, à la 'let them eat Cakism'.

Doesn’t mean anything, most youngsters are socialist - until they learn the real world does not revolve around the teachings of Karl Marx

Sorry Katie, but what absolute tosh and nonsense.

Caroline Lucas says it well- and his reply is well... as above

fb.watch/kq8QJ1UDeq/

HousePlantQueen Tue 09-May-23 16:44:48

Oh, and the group is run by Westminster Council, that well known group of loonie lefties.

Fleurpepper Tue 09-May-23 16:46:16

Katie59

Fleurpepper

Katie, only just over 30% of young people are in favour ofMonarchy. So by the time of the next Coronation, what % will it be?

I can fully understand that young people feel that this huge display of pomp at such huge cost, was a slap in the face of all those struggling with the cost of living, à la 'let them eat Cakism'.

Doesn’t mean anything, most youngsters are socialist - until they learn the real world does not revolve around the teachings of Karl Marx

They will be the ones at the next Coronation, and probably in greater number. So can't see how it is irrelevant. Most of us will be gone, by then ... just before of after Charles- as many of us are about the same age.

HousePlantQueen Tue 09-May-23 16:51:48

GSM, I make the comments I have because I am uncomfortable with the way this country is headed with the current Tory administration. I am perfectly free to do so, despite your unnecessarily rude comments about my not having understood the Act. If you are happy to sit back and watch this, that is down to you. I am not. I am a retired Practice Manager with a good knowledge of taxation law as it existed during my working career, you are a retired property lawyer, neither of us are barristers working in criminal law, so my opinion, like everyone else's is just as valid as yours.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 09-May-23 16:55:28

HousePlantQueen

Oh, and the group is run by Westminster Council, that well known group of loonie lefties.

Yes, Labour is in overall control of Westminster Council

31 Labour Councillors

23 Conservative Councillors

HousePlantQueen Tue 09-May-23 16:57:11

OK, you win. I give up

Casdon Tue 09-May-23 17:01:24

Just wondering if people have seen the latest?
news.sky.com/story/met-police-chief-claims-fake-stewards-caught-with-bottles-of-paint-they-planned-to-throw-at-coronation-procession-12877094

fancythat Tue 09-May-23 17:12:34

Good link Casdon. Havent got time to read it all now.

Seems part of the new Act was indeed used.

maddyone Tue 09-May-23 17:18:54

Fleurpepper

Katie, only just over 30% of young people are in favour ofMonarchy. So by the time of the next Coronation, what % will it be?

I can fully understand that young people feel that this huge display of pomp at such huge cost, was a slap in the face of all those struggling with the cost of living, à la 'let them eat Cakism'.

Is this a thread about some people who were arrested at the coronation, or a thread about the poor and disadvantaged who are assumed to dislike the royal family because they’ve got more money than them?

PS I worked in a poor area for many years and all royal events were celebrated with gusto. It seems to me that some middle class people on here think they know what poor and disadvantaged people think. They don’t! The protesters were far more likely to be middle class/educated/retired than people from poor areas.

maddyone Tue 09-May-23 17:20:11

Mollygo

So according to your latest post HPQ, the republican protestors carrying the rape alarms were all members of the Westminster Night Team. Do they work during the day too?

That assertion is clearly rubbish isn’t it Mollygo?

maddyone Tue 09-May-23 17:25:53

Thanks for that verification Casdon. I said way back in the thread that these protesters were carrying paint, rape alarms, and glue. They did not intend to merely heckle and carry a few placards. I hate to think about their true intentions because missiles such as paint being hurled or rape alarms going off would have resulted in serious injuries to many in the crowds or to the participants in the procession, because the horses would have been spooked and terrified. I can only conclude that injury and death is what they wanted and that is evil.