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FannyCornforth Wed 17-May-23 15:18:38

Just now

Callistemon21 Sun 21-May-23 12:01:16

I'm happy to be referred to as part of 'the coven'

No, it was me you accused of being in a coven with just one other poster who left.

So I must be The Worst 🧙‍♀️ left all by myself.

volver3 Sun 21-May-23 12:00:12

When shall we three meet again, GagaJo?

volver3 Sun 21-May-23 11:59:10

Two points:

GagaJo didn't call Fanny any of those things, she said those views were represented on the forum and some people stand up to it.

Fanny's exposed reporting said that I was complaining about being bullied and that I try to get threads deleted. None of which is true. So if you are intentionally saying things that aren't true, you are a .... (fill in the blanks)

GagaJo Sun 21-May-23 11:58:46

I'm not sure you can be in 'the coven' VS. You're too rational.

VioletSky Sun 21-May-23 11:56:49

I dunno

My thoughts on the "clique" as such is that they are people who overlook each other's comments that are very much not ok and sometimes very personal because they agree with those commenters on many subjects and want that agreement.

Often disliking the same behaviours they ignore in those who agree with them and pointing it out in others

I cannot understand putting my own values aside in such a way and don't which is why I've stood up for those people when I've seen them receive those comments on many occasions

My values are all inclusive

GagaJo Sun 21-May-23 11:53:13

Callistemon21

GagaJo

Galaxy

The mechanism for problems on GN is reporting whether you like it or not, I feel conflicted about it but I dont expect GN or MN to stand alone in having completely free speech, that would be ridiculous. Reporting is the mechanismused on this site and people are free to use it as they like.

I agree with this. Anyone can report if they want to.

But members can't claim the moral high ground just because someone 'the clique' dislike gets posts reported. Because 'the clique' click away on the old report button, on repeat.

I mostly CBA to report. I don't care if others don't like me, I wouldn't bother reporting insults towards me. I only report if someone is outright racist, homophobic, engaging in hate speech.

Accusing posters of being in a clique is ridiculous.
Just because someone disagrees with you and agrees with someone else doesn't mean they are in a clique.

It's better than coven 🧙‍♀️🧙‍♀️ I suppose, which has been used previously when attacking posters
😁

Oh come on. Don't be disingenuous. Both you and I could write the list of names of 'that' clique.

Or of a sub clique. Etc.

I'm happy to be referred to as part of 'the coven'. I'm guessing that would be me, Volver, trisher and a couple of others.

Callistemon21 Sun 21-May-23 11:51:42

GagaJo

Callistemon21

Galaxy

They are also free to write words without spacing shock

I thought it was a word I'd never come across before!

And, if anyone posts rabid rightwing or white supremacist racist views^ on Gransnet that is against the rules and should probably be deleted.

Being a monarchist does not equate to being a rabid rightwinger either.

No, I agree it doesn't.

But wishing someone ill because they've moved away from that organisation does. Not that I'm saying you personally did that (before that is misinterpreted). On the thread in general.

No, I didn't.
I don't think I've seen anyone wishing them ill either.

I'm sorry they went, they could have been a great asset to the country, but I can understand why.
However, their behaviour since has puzzled me. 🤔

GagaJo Sun 21-May-23 11:49:42

Rosie51

^But members can't claim the moral high ground just because someone 'the clique' dislike gets posts reported. Because 'the clique' click away on the old report button, on repeat.^

Goodness, are you suggesting that GN delete inoffensive posts just because 'the clique' report them? I thought they only deleted posts that go against the ethos of the site.

The 'ethos' is a very nebulous thing though, isn't it?

Callistemon21 Sun 21-May-23 11:48:53

GagaJo

Galaxy

The mechanism for problems on GN is reporting whether you like it or not, I feel conflicted about it but I dont expect GN or MN to stand alone in having completely free speech, that would be ridiculous. Reporting is the mechanismused on this site and people are free to use it as they like.

I agree with this. Anyone can report if they want to.

But members can't claim the moral high ground just because someone 'the clique' dislike gets posts reported. Because 'the clique' click away on the old report button, on repeat.

I mostly CBA to report. I don't care if others don't like me, I wouldn't bother reporting insults towards me. I only report if someone is outright racist, homophobic, engaging in hate speech.

Accusing posters of being in a clique is ridiculous.
Just because someone disagrees with you and agrees with someone else doesn't mean they are in a clique.

It's better than coven 🧙‍♀️🧙‍♀️ I suppose, which has been used previously when attacking posters
😁

GagaJo Sun 21-May-23 11:48:29

Callistemon21

Galaxy

They are also free to write words without spacing shock

I thought it was a word I'd never come across before!

And, if anyone posts rabid rightwing or white supremacist racist views^ on Gransnet that is against the rules and should probably be deleted.

Being a monarchist does not equate to being a rabid rightwinger either.

No, I agree it doesn't.

But wishing someone ill because they've moved away from that organisation does. Not that I'm saying you personally did that (before that is misinterpreted). On the thread in general.

Rosie51 Sun 21-May-23 11:47:40

But members can't claim the moral high ground just because someone 'the clique' dislike gets posts reported. Because 'the clique' click away on the old report button, on repeat.

Goodness, are you suggesting that GN delete inoffensive posts just because 'the clique' report them? I thought they only deleted posts that go against the ethos of the site.

VioletSky Sun 21-May-23 11:46:38

Reports I have had in the past have twisted the meaning as well

I've had a few comments reinstated after I've explained

I very rarely report because I've got quite a thick skin

Callistemon21 Sun 21-May-23 11:44:15

Galaxy

They are also free to write words without spacing shock

I thought it was a word I'd never come across before!

And, if anyone posts rabid rightwing or white supremacist racist views^ on Gransnet that is against the rules and should probably be deleted.

Being a monarchist does not equate to being a rabid rightwinger either.

GagaJo Sun 21-May-23 11:42:18

Galaxy

The mechanism for problems on GN is reporting whether you like it or not, I feel conflicted about it but I dont expect GN or MN to stand alone in having completely free speech, that would be ridiculous. Reporting is the mechanismused on this site and people are free to use it as they like.

I agree with this. Anyone can report if they want to.

But members can't claim the moral high ground just because someone 'the clique' dislike gets posts reported. Because 'the clique' click away on the old report button, on repeat.

I mostly CBA to report. I don't care if others don't like me, I wouldn't bother reporting insults towards me. I only report if someone is outright racist, homophobic, engaging in hate speech.

FannyCornforth Sun 21-May-23 11:41:36

volver3

Have an olive branch.

Oh, you don't want it? Well I'll keep lying about you then.

I don’t believe that I did lie. I am not a liar
And that’s my final comment

GrannyGravy13 Sun 21-May-23 11:38:49

Posts only get deleted if they break GN guidelines.

VioletSky Sun 21-May-23 11:38:40

Does it not bother anyone that some people feel hounded and ganged up on on threads even though they just want to express their own point of view?

That if everyone worked to keep their responses constructive, avoided insult, and just kept their arguments passionate rather than personal... We'd have a lively forum where everyone felt welcome?

Driving different opinions off threads the way it always goes here does not give a small handful of posters any element of "rightness".

I won't engage in it because I know it only damages my own arguments in the minds of those who just read and think "woah, no way I'm joining that thread" or those who leave them after dipping a toe. Really sad for a discussion forum

Galaxy Sun 21-May-23 11:37:19

They are also free to write words without spacing shock

Galaxy Sun 21-May-23 11:36:40

The mechanism for problems on GN is reporting whether you like it or not, I feel conflicted about it but I dont expect GN or MN to stand alone in having completely free speech, that would be ridiculous. Reporting is the mechanismused on this site and people are free to use it as they like.

volver3 Sun 21-May-23 11:19:10

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk guidelines.

FannyCornforth Sun 21-May-23 11:18:12

And I handed you an olive branch on more than one occasion

FannyCornforth Sun 21-May-23 11:17:37

No, I’m not denying what I did or said about you, not at all Volver

volver3 Sun 21-May-23 11:16:51

maddyone

Posts get deleted because they attack another poster Gaga not just because they’re reported.

No, they get deleted because they are reported.

That's how it works.

GNHQ don't look at posts unless someone reports them.

Cross posted Gagjo! Now I've reported something, although it is rare and I tell people I'm doing it!!

GagaJo Sun 21-May-23 11:16:04

maddyone

Posts get deleted because they attack another poster Gaga not just because they’re reported.

ONLY if they're reported.

GagaJo Sun 21-May-23 11:14:59

MerylStreep

Gagajo
You’re probably not aware of how many members have stopped posting on news and politics because of constantly being informed they they are un- educated thickos by Volver3.
And yes, Volver, I know you’ve probably never used the term un-educated thickos but we all know that’s what you’re thinking with your sneering comments when somebody disagrees with you.

This is the exact reason I no longer post on the gender critical threads.