Strictly Cheese Sandwiches

LovelyLady

If we can’t afford something we don’t have it. We do need nourishment to survive tho’
Cheese is expensive but there are alternatives.
What I really don’t get!
If we can’t afford to live in London, then we move somewhere we can afford where housing and living is cheaper. I’d love to live in London or Edinburgh but had to move to another part of the country. Only because it was cheaper.
I think the government will stop paying housing benefits in expensive areas encouraging folk to live in affordable areas that they can live according to their means.

What about work? Some of the people using food banks are nurses who are needed to work in the London hospitals. Plus all the people that are required to keep the city going - public transport, refuse collectors, shop workers.

One gets a job and then tries to live a reasonable distance from the place of employment.

I believe that housing in Lincolnshire is quite cheap but where are the jobs for all those skilled people who would like to move somewhere cheaper?

I can't imagine Widdecombe limbo dancing! Low inflation isn't a right of course but any sensible government would want to get it down. Mrs T inherited about 18% inflation and got it down. What are the present Tories waiting for?

Governments don't have much influence over 'getting inflation down', it comes down by itself if there are no further supply side shocks to increase prices. But getting it down will make no difference to the people already struggling because the prices which are causing them to struggle will not come down. All the prices will do is rise less fast. Inflation is measured by comparing prices at a point with prices at the same point some time later, be it a month, 6 months or a year. If they haven't risen, or have risen by much less, then the inflation figure will be down.

What is needed to escape the current cost of living crisis is for wages and benefits to rise in line with inflation. This will not be inflationary because current inflation isn't being caused by excessive demand, it's supply side driven. And profiteering by the supermarkets and energy companies...

The Bank of England repeatedly raising interest rates as contributing, too. Goodness knows why it's doing this because it should be obvious that making credit (loans and mortgages) more expensive makes people poorer and less able to spend. But the BoE seems to be unable to see outside its straight jacket belief that the only way to reduce inflation is to stop people spending.

The present government won't stop them because high interest rates benefit the wealthy whose investments are now worth more. And because they are economically illiterate... they don't understand that inflation has more than one cause and they can't even see that high interest rates are shrinking their tax base.

As a point of interest I wondered why she selected a cheese sandwich for her example? Cheese is the mystery ingredient, imo.

I worked out the cost of bread I was baking, less than £1 - the costs of flour, salt, sugar, oil, yeast for a single loaf. Enough for 10-12 sandwiches. Bake whilst already baking for another meal.

Sandwiches truly are reasonable in cost.

I don't think there was any particular reason, except that there had been details just before the interview about the increase in prices of some basic foodstuffs. including bread, milk, cheese, etc.

I believe it was costed at 40p (and that's been confirmed by others). I guess a fish paste or jam sandwich would be cheaper, but wouldn't be so nutritious. A cheese sandwich is hardly a luxury item! It was a metaphor for a cheap, basic item, which has increased in price by about 30% in a few months. It's not just about bread or cheese, but all the items which are low income family is likely to buy.

Until last autumn, I was spending £20 a week on food for myself. I was strict about it and hardly ever spent more (except at Christmas). I only ever buy basics and I have noticed the increase in prices. My budget is now £25 a week and I can only keep to that because I get free fresh food every week.

Do you make your own cheese Norah?

growstuff

Do you make your own cheese Norah?

We don't eat cheese. Thus I said it was a mystery item.

I do make all our bread. I do know that is easy and cheap.

How much do you mean by not expensive Primrose? How much does the fuel cost?

The fact is that food has increased in price! If you're already eating cheaply and healthily, what do you do to cut back?

I'd be really interested to know. I spend £25 on food and can't eat high carb items - so no porridge, bread, potatoes or pasta - all practical and sensible suggestions welcome!

Norah

growstuff

Do you make your own cheese Norah?

We don't eat cheese. Thus I said it was a mystery item.

I do make all our bread. I do know that is easy and cheap.

So what do you put in your sandwiches which costs less than 30p and provides protein and fat?

PS. I don't eat bread and would never make it in a month of Sundays.

growstuff

Norah

growstuff

Do you make your own cheese Norah?

We don't eat cheese. Thus I said it was a mystery item.

I do make all our bread. I do know that is easy and cheap.

So what do you put in your sandwiches which costs less than 30p and provides protein and fat?

Chick pea salad, avocado fava salad, mushroom and pickled onions, veg and avocado, crispy tofu, hummous peanut or almond butter.

Aquafaba mayonnaise.

Anything really, without meat or cheese.

Lost punctuation.

Hummous, or peanut butter/ almond butter.

Norah

growstuff

Norah

growstuff

Do you make your own cheese Norah?

We don't eat cheese. Thus I said it was a mystery item.

I do make all our bread. I do know that is easy and cheap.

So what do you put in your sandwiches which costs less than 30p and provides protein and fat?

Chick pea salad, avocado fava salad, mushroom and pickled onions, veg and avocado, crispy tofu, hummous peanut or almond butter.

Aquafaba mayonnaise.

Anything really, without meat or cheese.

And how much would they cost?

Sorry, but they sound disgusting anyway.

Costs, please!

growstuff

Norah

growstuff

Norah

growstuff

Do you make your own cheese Norah?

We don't eat cheese. Thus I said it was a mystery item.

I do make all our bread. I do know that is easy and cheap.

So what do you put in your sandwiches which costs less than 30p and provides protein and fat?

Chick pea salad, avocado fava salad, mushroom and pickled onions, veg and avocado, crispy tofu, hummous peanut or almond butter.

Aquafaba mayonnaise.

Anything really, without meat or cheese.

And how much would they cost?

Sorry, but they sound disgusting anyway.

Costs, please!

You asked me what we eat - I'm sorry you're disgusted.

I'll not rudely say what disgusts me to what we will not eat as it's all just taste. Everything is an opinion, yours doesn't match mine.

You can work out the costs to boiling dry beans and pulses on your own. You can look to avocado, nut butters prices easily.

Whitewavemark2

I am always amused when a thread like this comes up there is a competition as to how poverty stricken everyone was.

It wasn’t right then and it isn’t right now.

Poverty isn’t a competition it is a state of affairs that destroys life chances and families.

You are absolutely right. Poverty has never been acceptable, never will be, and no one should have to endure it now.

Batworthy

Whitewavemark2

I am always amused when a thread like this comes up there is a competition as to how poverty stricken everyone was.

It wasn’t right then and it isn’t right now.

Poverty isn’t a competition it is a state of affairs that destroys life chances and families.

You are absolutely right. Poverty has never been acceptable, never will be, and no one should have to endure it now.

Quite agree Batworthy

MaisieD
You are quite right, but what I find equally depressing is that the current Labour leadership are equally economically illiterate and still believe in "handbag economics"

Ilovecheese

MaisieD
You are quite right, but what I find equally depressing is that the current Labour leadership are equally economically illiterate and still believe in "handbag economics"

I absolutely agree, Ilovecheese.

All I can hope for is that if/when they win the next GE they're not quite such b*stards as the tories.

What a virtue signalling, self aggrandizing group many people on this thread are - and with such a contempt for the poor, talking of them as if they were excresences on this earth who had to justify ever mouthful of food they ate.

When some people are not busy polishing their halos with stories of past poverty they are acting as judge an jury telling the poor what to eat. They are undeserving of choice, should stick to eating regimes that better off people approve of for them

Those living in poverty are people just like us nd indeed could be us or our children at some time in their lives. They do not, and cannot choose where they live. They live where their are jobs and they want to stay close to family and friends because for them almost more than the rest of us, their social and family networks are crucial in helping deal wth their low incomes.

When it comes to food their budgets are small and they cannot raise to steak or caviar, but they are entitled as any of us to have a nourishing and enjoyable food, which contains a full range of foodstuffs, including cheese, meat, fish, just like the rest of us, even if it is the cheapest cuts.

Or perhaps we could replace food banks with public kitchens serving carefully measured bowls of gruel to the poor because they have done nothing to deserve and some posters on this thread could volunteer to assess each poor person and their worthiness, before using exactly the right size ladle of food that they considered them entitled to.

What we should be doing is trying to do is to ensure everyone has an adequate income that they can afford to house, heat and feed their family without resorting to charity.

If this thread is anything to go by we have replaced the 19th century idea of deserving and undeserving poor, by a blanket belief that to be poor is to be undeserving - of decent food, decent housing near work and warmth.

Well said MOnica!

Maybe after the public kitchen volunteers have done their stint, they could follow the "clients" home and check out what they put in their trolleys.

Spot on M0nica.

growstuff

Well said MOnica!

Maybe after the public kitchen volunteers have done their stint, they could follow the "clients" home and check out what they put in their trolleys.

And check their homes for flat screened tv

And high end trainers...

Well said, MOnica

monica 👍

Yes, well said.

She is vile, and anyone who excuses her comments, well . .. they must be too.