Boris Johnson referred to the police for suspected further breaches of lockdown regulations.

ronib

Jenny McGee lead intensive nurse at the icu said Boris looked very very unwell. Etc.

He never looks particularly healthy.

I expect you didn't look very well when you had it, but were you at death's door?

ronib - I just have to ask now - do you work for Boris Johnson?

"...lead intensive nurse at the icu said Boris looked very very unwell. Etc."
Language often misleads. Looking very very unwell is not the same as being very very unwell.

I’ve no problem believing Johnson was ill with covid. He was shaking hands, ignoring the distance advice.
That aside, he was the most disastrous PM till the crazy tories voted the Truss.
Johnson was lazy, self indulgent, arrogant, selfish and lacking in integrity - everything he does is to please himself, meet his own aims.

I am convinced he was very, very unwell but surely he had a deputy to assist in such a situation. They should have charged him immediately, not way after the alleged activity. A waste of money,time and effort and distracting from other more important issues.

One of the reasons why he was more ill than his colleagues who also had it was his weight. He said he was going to do something to help the nation be healthier. I wonder what came of that promise?

Do those who think that this has timed out feel the same about other breaches of the law that happened some time ago? Should Rolf Harris have been let off because his crimes were in the past, for instance? Or the man recently convicted of killing Nikki Allan 30 years ago?

I'm not saying that partying during the lockdowns that Johnson imposed on the rest of us is comparable to child abuse and murder, but that the principle of prosecuting people is not usually confined to a timescale, and it's not easy to find examples of less serious old crimes that are still in the news.

The question I'm asking is at what point on the scale of 'serious to trivial' should we just give up and let people get away with things?

nanna8- some people who stuck to the rules might want to see if the allegations are true, even if belated. My daughter, for example, whose wedding was rearranged and utterly changed to adhere to restrictions ( losing thousands of pounds) or a friend, three months in hospital after a stroke with no visitors - yep no one, ill and afraid and completely alone for a quarter of a year.. They might have some views on this. Doesn't mean they aren't interested in " other more important issues ".

NotSpaghetti

ronib - I just have to ask now - do you work for Boris Johnson?

Not Spaghetti very good question. In fact I was beginning to wonder that myself. At one point I began to feel like his apologist.
I don’t like some of the over the top comments which have no factual basis. I assume many of the comments are politically motivated. I object to being told lies.
I also object to being told that 40 new hospitals were going to be built. My local hospital is going to be rebuilt in part around 2030. Good for my descendants but not the most accurate way to engage with the people.
No gain in calling out government when we employ the same tactics that they do.

We’re all at death’s door- it just hasn’t opened.. yet.

ronib

Jenny McGee lead intensive nurse at the icu said Boris looked very very unwell. Etc.

Looking very unwell, is a far cry from deaths door, - as his PR would have you believe

Ww2 do you know anything about an icu ward? Just by being admitted to one means that any patient is very ill.
Don’t tell me that it was a pr stunt to admit BJ because I don’t believe it.

ronib

Ww2 do you know anything about an icu ward? Just by being admitted to one means that any patient is very ill.
Don’t tell me that it was a pr stunt to admit BJ because I don’t believe it.

I believe one member of staff said he was given a bed in ICU to give him privacy and because of who he is and they erred on the side of caution, but he didn't have more than minimum intervention. No idea if that's true, but it's the claim.

Incidentally, I spent a night on a high dependency ward once, even though there wasn't much wrong with me, just because there weren't any other beds free.

I have no idea how ill he was.

Wasn't he discharged on Easter Sunday, adding to the dramatic effect?

Of course growstuff is right.

Think about it ronid or as you are fond of telling people “perhaps read a bit more”😄

Very early days of covid

Johnson was the PM of the U.K.

There was no way the Drs were going to lose him - would not look good would it?

And the privacy thing of course.

Johnson came out after a week and then partied at chequers or no 10 depending on which venue suited him at the time.

Ask the children’s author - bear hunt man- can’t remember his name - senior moment - if he thinks that Johnson was at deaths door and he will give you short shrift.

Ww2 what interests me more is that BJ was profuse in his thanks to the nurses for saving his life and at least one of them left the NHS after a 1 per cent pay offer.

Well, I take my information from reputable doctors who commented both in the media and on twitter.

Had Johnson been very ill he would probably have been put on a ventilator, because at that stage, early in the pandemic, that was what the usual treatment was, though I understand that practice changed over the course of time as medical staff became more skilled at dealing with covid. Ventilation is a very invasive and traumatic process, one which patients don't recover from very quickly, apparently. Johnson wasn't ventilated, just some extra oxygen when needed.

'Nearly died' claims are very much exaggerated...

Ww2 You mean Michael Rosen. Love his children’s books.

ronib

Ww2 what interests me more is that BJ was profuse in his thanks to the nurses for saving his life and at least one of them left the NHS after a 1 per cent pay offer.

I thought that the nurses went back to NZ, PDQ.

It is Michael Rosen, Wwmk2. He was ventilated for along time, weeks, wasn't it? He had to learn to walk again IIRC.

Yes that’s the One😄😄.

I can remember seeing teddies tied to lampposts all around.

ronib

Ww2 what interests me more is that BJ was profuse in his thanks to the nurses for saving his life and at least one of them left the NHS after a 1 per cent pay offer.

One of the nurses went to Australia or NZ didn’t she?

The Caribbean not NZ….

Of course it's easy to thank profusely if there's "mileage" in it...

Mileage rather than money of course.

ronib

The Caribbean not NZ….

She is a New Zealander but was going to work in the Caribbean.

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/may/18/nurse-who-cared-for-boris-johnson-resigns-over-lack-of-respect-for-nhs-workers

Something is clearly going on regarding the additional evidence. Delays will alway increase suspicion that some massaging is going on behind the scenes.

www.itv.com/news/2023-05-30/covid-inquiry-legal-battle-looms-over-johnson-whatsapp-requests