Can a woman have a penis?

It's relevant to a discussion about gender and what gender means.

Getting back to the OP, it’s a firm NO from me

Galaxy

How on earth did you know they were women that were judging you. What criteria did you use?

Easy

They said so

The worst one angrily popped me out of her vagina which suits your criteria at least

They probably werent ready to be their true selves violet, so it's possible that all the people who judged your appearance were men.

Thanks Madgran maybe adding 'traditional ideas of' would work.

Just to reiterate what I posted earlier, if intact males weren't accessing women's spaces and letting it be known that they are intact males, we wouldn't have incidents of some women making incorrect assumptions about natal women who don't 'look feminine enough'.

Eddie Izzard is one example.

‘Easy, they said so’
(ie said that they were women)

VS, with that criteria we get back to the realm of dodgy sex offenders and female prisons; which I thought was an area that we were supposed to be avoiding

Not my criteria violet, I didnt invent biology, despite my role as spokesperson for the world.

If I and everyone in here chants transwomen are women it will have absolutely no impact on whether people can change sex.

We really have both gone up in the world, haven’t we Galaxy 😊

Mollygo

Glorianny
So please could you stop pretending you speak or support all women.

I support females, not women, ever since the right to use women to mean only female was abrogated by . . . Males.

Because it seems to me that the only women you really support are ones who immediately agree with you.
Once again G or T, you have described yourself perfectly.
The only women you really support are ones who immediately agree with you.

The rest of us are fair game and can be insulted and denigrated at will.
*What do you mean by that? Who are the rest of us? Can you show me.*

Well if you really don't know Molygo I think a little self examination might be in order>

For the record I think the views of the GC or BO women on these threads are illogical, inoperable and dangerous, but I wouldn't deny them the right to express their views, or post comments such as "misogynistic" or "not feminist". about them. I think they are sincerely held if ill thought out.

And it doesn't matter if you refer to me as a natal woman or a female my views on this subject are diametrically opposed to others on this thread which makes defining a woman, or a female, by the way she feels or thinks an impossibility.
It's nearest parallel is probably the Victorian belief that having a uterus made you prone to hysteria,

No the conversation was on whether or not a woman can have a penis.

Trans women can have a penis was not an acceptable answer

Even though it's true

VioletSky

I don't care

I focus on how people behave

So do I, and how some TIM and TRA behave is what got us into this situation in the first place.
The denial of that simply makes it worse.
Can a female have a penis?
NO.
A prosthesis, yes, but it isn’t a penis.
If it’s a penis, the owner is male.

Mollygo

Take responsibility for your own behaviour and your own perpetuation of the trans debate

Because arguments don't happen in a void.

Trans people were marching with their LGB brothers and sisters and facing discrimination a long time before the trans debate

And we have already acknowledged that a large percentage of trans people aren't doing anything to compromise women's rights and don't belong in this debate at all

The fact that they are being dragged into it is the reason I am here

We have indeed fanny. However as yet my spokesperson role has only involved making an idiot of myself on GN, as head of security you seem to have allowed a car to crash into downing street.

Galaxy

We have indeed fanny. However as yet my spokesperson role has only involved making an idiot of myself on GN, as head of security you seem to have allowed a car to crash into downing street.

That’s properly hilarious, thank you!

VioletSky
It is a complicated game called "When is a penis not a penis"
The rule seems to be when it is one constructed by surgery, unless it's a man who is having one constructed, in which case it is a penis but if it's a transman (who some think is still a woman) then it isn't.
I don't know if similar rules apply to other plastic surgery.
So I'm not sure if a nose reconstruction is a nose or not.

Tut tut VS. You are calling people by titles they may not wish to have, with meanings you assign to those titles which even those who like the title may not agree with.

Trans women, even if you separate the words, can have a penis only because they’re male. They can only be called women because if the misogyny of some males and support from those women both male and female who endorse the misogyny. Using that as a claim to truth shows how far from supporting natal women you have travelled.

They are not female, because females do not have a penis.

I am still young enough to remember my Biology classes, if a body has a penis then the person is 100% male.

To think and/or deny this is perpetuating a myth originating from men.

See the pattern, those pesky women have got it all now, best we get in there and reclaim what’s rightfully ours

Glorianny

VioletSky
It is a complicated game called "When is a penis not a penis"
The rule seems to be when it is one constructed by surgery, unless it's a man who is having one constructed, in which case it is a penis but if it's a transman (who some think is still a woman) then it isn't.
I don't know if similar rules apply to other plastic surgery.
So I'm not sure if a nose reconstruction is a nose or not.

Biology not your strongest subject I guess?

Glorianny

VioletSky
It is a complicated game called "When is a penis not a penis"
The rule seems to be when it is one constructed by surgery, unless it's a man who is having one constructed, in which case it is a penis but if it's a transman (who some think is still a woman) then it isn't.
I don't know if similar rules apply to other plastic surgery.
So I'm not sure if a nose reconstruction is a nose or not.

I had to laugh at that

Is it a nose stuck into someone else's business if it's a constructed nose?

If I had a trunk attached to my face would I be an elephant?

GrannyGravy13

I am still young enough to remember my Biology classes, if a body has a penis then the person is 100% male.

To think and/or deny this is perpetuating a myth originating from men.

See the pattern, ^those pesky women have got it all now, best we get in there and reclaim what’s rightfully ours^

So in order to be 100% a man you have to have a penis?

What about men who don't have a penis? What percentage are they? Are we going by area or is there another criteria

I don't have a penis so what percentage man am I? If that's the 100% criteria to be one?

Lots of animals don't have a penis, many birds do not have a penis, are they only a percentage male?

If a trans woman doesn't have a penis, what percentage not a man is she?

So many questions

Doodledog

If I had a trunk attached to my face would I be an elephant?

That did make me chuckle 🤣🤣

I am off out now to a family BBQ, will look in later no doubt this thread will with have either been deleted or still perpetuating the myth that women can and do have a penis…