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Has the penny dropped (as fast as the Pound)- Brexit is a disaster

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Fleurpepper Sat 10-Jun-23 16:56:06

Is there anyone here on GN still prepared to stand and say that it is not- and give evidence to the effect?

Maremia Sun 18-Jun-23 13:44:16

And it even has a foreword by Boris Johnson! Well that certainly lends to the veracity of the document! hmm

kittylester Sun 18-Jun-23 12:39:47

There is no list of benefits because most of us think that 'it is what it is' and 'we are where we are' and no amount of raking over old events will change things.

FP, if your pensions are so affected, could you not come home to live? As I said before, we are in a similar financial position to you and are fine financially - in fact you will have more pension income than us as I was a SAHM.

Added to that, and again you are aware, that the NHS has served my family and friends brilliantly recently. You would be in the same Trust area as us and I can vouch for the service available.

Plus, you would be closer to your family.

All said very sincerely.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 18-Jun-23 12:25:51

There is still cheap housing to be found in these parts Dinahmo. Astonishingly cheap.

Dinahmo Sun 18-Jun-23 12:24:17

Any one know what NFN means?

Dinahmo Sun 18-Jun-23 12:20:30

Germanshepherdsmum

Indeed Foxy. I have spent an annual holiday in this area with family for more years than I can remember, before moving here seven years ago. I therefore know just a smidgen more about what goes on here than the OP. She might be surprised at the number of wealthy professionals who have chosen to retire to these parts, hence the pockets of very high property prices - we are not a bunch of ignorant carrot crunchers.

and pricing the locals out unfortunately.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 18-Jun-23 12:16:29

Very pertinent fancythat.

fancythat Sun 18-Jun-23 12:14:35

A Bible verse I happened to read this morning

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing personal opinion.

Maggiemaybe Sun 18-Jun-23 12:14:28

Wanting individual G’netters to list the benefits just gives opportunities for more arguments. ( maybe that’s the point? )

I’m sure it is, Kandinsky. Ten years on GN seeing the same old, same old has taught me that. smile

Maggiemaybe Sun 18-Jun-23 12:12:25

And as if by magic…

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1054643/benefits-of-brexit.pdf

Best discount the minor detail of the little-known politician who wrote the foreword and some of the more fanciful benefits (imperial crowns on pint glasses, indeed grin). And no doubt much will be up for debate or scorn. But there are some actual benefits in there.

I once had to abandon a project because of the public procurement rules. I’m glad they’ve gone.

Maremia Sun 18-Jun-23 12:00:50

Good try, but no gold star. We all know why there is not list posted, because there is no list!

Kandinsky Sun 18-Jun-23 11:59:56

‘Benefits of Brexit’ can easily be googled.
There’s a 100 page government document outlining the benefits - it’s there for all to see at the touch of a few buttons.

Wanting individual G’netters to list the benefits just gives opportunities for more arguments. ( maybe that’s the point? )
At the end of the day, if you’re that disappointed with brexit nothing anyone posts will help.

Joseann Sun 18-Jun-23 11:49:34

* A man not a nan, although a GNsnetter might have had more of a clue!

Joseann Sun 18-Jun-23 11:47:50

Callistemon21

Stop wasting time on here Kandidky

Although you could look through the thread as Joseann has been valiantly trying to find some positive outcomes of Brexit
😁

I could start you off with another one but that would be cheating.

Yeah, I've given up finding them, Callistemon because I'm not getting any praise for effort, and you know how that demoralises the eager pupil!

Now for today's lighthearted post ......
What did Rishi Sunak think he was doing giving the French or the EU half a billion pounds to hire more border guards? I've just sat in the queue waiting to board the ferry, when tap tap on my car window, and a nan in a red security jacket asks me, "have you any immigrés with you?" NO. "OK, merci." Is that all we get for our £500 million?
What a joke! I hope Macron is having a nice Sunday lunch and a fine bottle of wine or two on us today. ⛴️ 👋

Greta Sun 18-Jun-23 11:45:41

Maremia, I think Kandinsky has answered your question:
"Why vote for it then?
Because I like knowing we’re no longer tied to the EU - that’s enough for me.
I honestly can’t think of a single negative to being out of the EU, & I’m still so proud of the UK for voting to leave."
In other words who cares about consequences?

Parsley3 Sun 18-Jun-23 11:39:27

Brexit has hit pensioners who live abroad but not so much those of us in the UK.
However, as someone who does think Brexit was a very big mistake I will hold my nose and actually suggest a benefit. HGV drivers became so scarce that they were offered handsome pay rises as an incentive to recruit more. . I heard this on a radio phone in from a driver who was delighted with this outcome. Of course, in true BBC fashion, I do this in the interest of balance.

fancythat Sun 18-Jun-23 11:32:11

We are grateful we
Dont not have peace
Are not even more beholden to the EU
Are not even more ruled by them
Are not even more told what to do and not do by them
Are not even more embroiled in an EU army that was being muted
Have a smidgen more control over our lives
Are not even more embroiled in the laws that were to come/might have come
Have not lost even more identity

I could go on and on. And on. And on. And on. And on.

But all this was discussed many years ago.
No, I will not reply to anyone directly who does not seem to have grasped/learnt/memorised anything whatsoever in 7 years. What on earth would be the point in the slightest.

Callistemon21 Sun 18-Jun-23 11:07:22

Maremia

Seriously? 31 pages in, and no BREXIT benefits yet? Wonder why that could be?

Perhaps posters don't respond to demands?

Maremia Sun 18-Jun-23 11:06:29

Seriously? 31 pages in, and no BREXIT benefits yet? Wonder why that could be?

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 18-Jun-23 10:39:17

Very rudely, Imogen. Words would be spoken which are not allowed here.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 18-Jun-23 10:37:32

If I see any signs of cheating I will tell teacher. And she’s probably got anti-plagiarism software so don’t try googling.

ImogenMac Sun 18-Jun-23 10:37:13

I’m glad and relieved that someone so dogmatic and disrespectful is no longer part of our teaching profession. It’s not about methods or style, more inbuilt DNA towards others of a different opinion .
Rational debate is impossible.

In real life, how would you react ?

Callistemon21 Sun 18-Jun-23 10:32:29

Sorry: Kandinsky

Callistemon21 Sun 18-Jun-23 10:31:59

Stop wasting time on here Kandidky

Although you could look through the thread as Joseann has been valiantly trying to find some positive outcomes of Brexit
😁

I could start you off with another one but that would be cheating.

Kandinsky Sun 18-Jun-23 10:27:00

grin

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 18-Jun-23 10:23:31

Chop chop!