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Unfolding news, attack in Nottingham

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maddyone Tue 13-Jun-23 10:20:45

Just that. Sadly three people killed and one man arrested.

HowVeryDareYou2 Tue 13-Jun-23 16:25:24

I live in Nottingham (suburbs) and know all the areas mentioned on the news Ilkeston Road and Magdala Road aren't the best areas. It is an awful situation, though.

maddyone Tue 13-Jun-23 16:51:58

I don’t really know Oreo except it grates on me. I think it maybe that it seems to be a patronising attempt to reassure us by saying it’s only a lone wolf attack. Maybe that’s why it grates, but I’m not sure, it just does.

welbeck Tue 13-Jun-23 17:36:16

www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/read-this/warning-issued-to-social-media-users-to-think-before-you-post-or-risk-being-found-in-contempt-of-court-3288769

karmalady Tue 13-Jun-23 17:45:49

west african migrant with a violent history

maddyone Tue 13-Jun-23 17:59:59

Seriously shouldn’t be here.

Dickens Tue 13-Jun-23 18:11:54

karmalady

west african migrant with a violent history

Why is anyone with a violent history free to roam around - and I'm not specifically talking about this incident, the details of which I know nothing?

It just boggles my mind the number of cases where the perpetrator of a violent act has a long history of violence, but after serving some paltry sentence, is then released. What happens during their incarceration to make them safe to go back into society?

On the other hand, a woman who is no danger to anyone but herself, gets a two year prison sentence for breaking the law on abortion - not that I'm minimising the offence - but how is that sentence justified when some who commit acts of violence are given similar sentences, on a regular basis? Because they are regularly violent?

But, I'm not commenting on this case - little is known about what happened and I'm not speculating on it... just the wider aspect of the number of those committing violent crimes who are frequent offenders.

tickingbird Tue 13-Jun-23 18:15:31

Welbeck

You are, doubtless, well meaning but we aren’t saying anything that isn’t being said on the news. Warnings about posting on social media usually relates to people posting what they know as opposed to what’s already out there. Crimes are discussed on the news channels extensively but they only broadcast what’s allowed. If I knew this individual’s name and posted it then I, daresay, I’d be in contempt until his name is released.

maddyone Tue 13-Jun-23 18:29:39

Totally agree with you Dickens. Of course we don’t know if this individual has been in prison or how his violent history has manifested itself.

Forsythia Tue 13-Jun-23 18:36:23

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maddyone Tue 13-Jun-23 18:39:09

That’s why I said he shouldn’t be here Forsythia. If we had a proper immigration system that actually checked who was coming into the country we might avoid some of this.

tickingbird Tue 13-Jun-23 18:50:46

Let’s face it even after a migrant commits a crime like this they aren’t deported and if the government tried there would be plenty trying to stop it. It’s utter madness. The young students were only 19 and the other victim, in his 50’s, just found dead in the road. Utterly shocking.

HowVeryDareYou2 Tue 13-Jun-23 18:57:52

Magdala Road, where the poor man was found dead, and his van stolen to knock over the other people, has a Best Western hotel on the corner - all illegal immigrants housed there. Just saying.......

MerylStreep Tue 13-Jun-23 19:01:03

maddyone

That’s why I said he shouldn’t be here Forsythia. If we had a proper immigration system that actually checked who was coming into the country we might avoid some of this.

There lies the problem: checking. The vast proportion of people coming here to seek asylum come from countries that don’t have a 21st century IT system.
In Afghanistan many births are not registered

karmalady Tue 13-Jun-23 19:10:03

we cannot say anything about that west african violent migrant.

Obviously things need to be sorted in this country and pdq

Primrose53 Tue 13-Jun-23 20:52:16

MerylStreep

maddyone

That’s why I said he shouldn’t be here Forsythia. If we had a proper immigration system that actually checked who was coming into the country we might avoid some of this.

There lies the problem: checking. The vast proportion of people coming here to seek asylum come from countries that don’t have a 21st century IT system.
In Afghanistan many births are not registered

So nobody should be allowed in this country if they have no ID or paperwork. We all know people smugglers tell them to throw these in the sea so that should be an end to it! No ID …. You’re not coming in.

VioletSky Tue 13-Jun-23 21:01:33

Why does this whole thread read like:

Let's wait to see if this is a minority we don't like

Yes it is!

Send them all home!!!!11

Forsythia Tue 13-Jun-23 21:14:06

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VioletSky Tue 13-Jun-23 21:17:17

Woah that was dark

Forsythia Tue 13-Jun-23 21:18:19

VioletSky

Woah that was dark

Shame. The truth hurts.

VioletSky Tue 13-Jun-23 21:21:46

Reported

Granniesunite Tue 13-Jun-23 21:23:16

No don’t report let it lie….

Forsythia Tue 13-Jun-23 21:23:54

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VioletSky Tue 13-Jun-23 21:25:57

I always say if I report

Always

There are a lot of other members here who may not like some comments

Forsythia Tue 13-Jun-23 21:27:26

There’s a lot of members here who might like the comments I make. Why in your mind is an immigrant with a violent history walking our streets killing innocent young students and others. Why do you think it’s acceptable?