Unfolding news, attack in Nottingham

maddyone

Good. I hope there are no pleas for leniency because of his mental health issues.

If his issues are proven, he won't receive a more lenient sentence, but they could affect where he's kept - in prison or a secure hospital.

Yes you’re right growstuff I realise that. I think it can be harder to be released from a secure hospital, but then again, if it’s prison, he will most likely get a recommendation of a certain number of years, which would probably mean most of his life, or even the whole of his life with no release.
I always feel badly about these horrible cases but for some reason this one has really affected me. Of course we were at university in Nottingham so that could be one reason, but also the older man who was about to retire and now unable to enjoy any grandchildren he may have, and those two lovely young people. It’s just heartbreaking.

I know we’ve heard this on other threads, but I just read this from the police announcement about this arrest.
"However, posting prejudicial information online about an active case could amount to contempt of court and, in the most serious cases, have the potential to cause the collapse of a trial."

maddyone I believe that if you’re given a sentence and sent to a secure hospital but recover sufficiently during your term to be discharged from hospital, you serve the remainder of your sentence in prison, you aren’t released into the community.

Thanks Casdon. I don’t think I knew that. I feel I’ve I’ve heard of people in secure hospitals serving longer than their sentences, but I’m certainly not sure about that.
I’m terribly unsettled about this case.

Mollygo do you think we (Gransnetters) have put prejudicial information on this thread? I hope we haven’t. I’m not sure.

No I don’t think so, but I was just about to post something when DH showed me the police report with that text in.

Thanks Molly

We could report the thread and GN will take it down, Mollygo and maddyone

I did worry about that with another thread a few years ago.

Callistemon21

Dickens

growstuff

MartinC1967

@growstuff

Re: ‘ There are plenty in all cities from all backgrounds.’

I would advise you to investigate the risk factors associated with the imbibing of “Skunk” and extreme violence (especially knife related violence).

The assertion that these factors are ubiquitous in society is manifestly untrue.

A very cursory google trawl will confirm this for you.

An informed view of risk and how to mitigate it might save you - and your loved one’s - live one day.

What are you on about?

What are you on about?

I was puzzling over this, too.

I think Martin is advising Gransnetters not to use street skunk.

No. He’s advising us to teach our grandchildren to be streetwise because a lot of young people, when they leave home for the first time have led quite sheltered lives. Someone I know had a psychotic episode because they overdid the wacky baccy and, I think, people from Afro Caribbean backgrounds are even more at risk. Cannabis is totally different these days to the stuff that used to just make us giggle a lot.

I think the police report regarding prejudicing urge court case probably relates to stuff on social media from people that know or have known the suspect.