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Where is the money coming from?

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vampirequeen Wed 21-Jun-23 16:01:58

This is not a rerun of any previous Russia/Ukraine threads so please don't post about the pros/cons of the conflict etc.

According to the Metro the UK government is going to lend £2.5billion to the Ukraine. Just where is the money coming from? If we have a spare £2.5billion why isn't it being spent on education, social care, the NHS, housing etc. How can we have no money to spend on necessities in the UK yet we have vast amounts of money to loan to another country.

ronib Mon 26-Jun-23 18:19:33

I wasn’t thinking of boots on the ground but more like old fashioned diplomacy/talks/ negotiations/resolution etc. The bit that usually follows war - I’m obviously suffering from sunstroke.

M0nica Mon 26-Jun-23 20:12:46

Lets get it clear. Ukraine was invaded by Russia who wished to take it over. The country was no threat to Russia and had done nothing to threaten it. It was an act of naked aggression.

Now people think they should be prepared to negotiate with Russia. On what basis? Reward Russia for its invasion and perhaps give it some of its territory. Russia has already occupied Crimea and made it part of Russia. Then next time Russia invades, should it concede a little more, until by constant mini wars could Russia finally achieve its objectives of invading and taking over Ukraine.

The only negotiations between the two countries should be on the basis of how Russia can withdraw from Ukraine and at the same time keep some dignity and credibility. Probably the best way of doing that would be by Putin being overthrown and replaced, when the need for Russia to concentrate on its own affairs could be used asa reason for withdrawal.

Norah Mon 26-Jun-23 20:40:46

M0nica, Lets get it clear. Ukraine was invaded by Russia who wished to take it over. The country was no threat to Russia and had done nothing to threaten it. It was an act of naked aggression.

Agreed 100%.

The question - do we pay, stay isolated from damage. I vote isolationism. Send money, send equipment, send no people.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 26-Jun-23 20:54:20

Indeed. Neither people nor, in my view, planes. Train pilots, fine - send planes, no.