Cruddas, Dorries and Rees-Mogg named by privileges committee for their un-disciplined use of language, amounting to contempt.
Why has Dorries formally resigned? She will nowđ.
Whatever happened to polo necks?
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Cruddas, Dorries and Rees-Mogg named by privileges committee for their un-disciplined use of language, amounting to contempt.
Why has Dorries formally resigned? She will nowđ.
So what?
Will they suffer any meaningful sanction for it?
Do electors even care?
Curious as to what counts as contempt. Witch-hunt and kangaroo court.
Lord Cruddas is quoted âIf they donât want people noticing they are a kangaroo court, then they should hop less.â
Bit tame really?
Playground spate.
ronib
Curious as to what counts as contempt. Witch-hunt and kangaroo court.
Lord Cruddas is quoted âIf they donât want people noticing they are a kangaroo court, then they should hop less.â
Bit tame really?
Playground spate.
Up pops ronib to prove my point...
Isnât it because of people like them that the Privileges Committee have had to be protected?
MayBee70 I think weâre well down the rabbit hole if the Privileges Committee canât handle some criticism.
As our representatives MPs should behave with dignity and uphold behavioural standards in the house. I donât care who they are, if they donât do that they arenât fit to be MPs.
But things like that ( and the sort of newspaper headlines aimed at people eg the enemies of the people one) do lead to people being threatened. Our government and parliament are based on rules of common decency. Out of interest do you think the Privileges Committee was a kangaroo court?
MayBee70 no I donât think kangaroos were involved and it was a necessary, if flawed procedure .
Having watched Putin address the Russian nation I think itâs important that if someone has an opinion then it should be aired. We need an open and free society and not one dictated to from above.
ronib
MayBee70 no I donât think kangaroos were involved and it was a necessary, if flawed procedure .
Having watched Putin address the Russian nation I think itâs important that if someone has an opinion then it should be aired. We need an open and free society and not one dictated to from above.
You donât appear to understand the procedures and rules relating to the committees.
ronib
MayBee70 no I donât think kangaroos were involved and it was a necessary, if flawed procedure .
Having watched Putin address the Russian nation I think itâs important that if someone has an opinion then it should be aired. We need an open and free society and not one dictated to from above.
This is about personal probity ronib. Are you saying you think itâs okay for MPs to do just as they like in the house, including slandering other people, calling the work of their own committees wrong if they disagree with the outcome, putting their feet up on benches, etc.etc. Come on now, we are better than that.
^ Come on now, we are better than that.^
I don't think we are, Casdon. I think the electorate in general doesn't give a monkey's and can't understand what the fuss is about. ronib is just a representative of them.
How much interest does this sort of topic get on Gnet, for example?
Itâs very important for Mps to be allowed to respectfully comment on matters which are important to them. I donât expect every mp to agree with every committee and itâs vital for divergent voices to be heard.
I donât think that the Privileges Committee was in any way prevented from doing its work by Rees Mogg, Cruddas and Dorries. It continues to do its work and I am expecting some censure of mps in yet another report.
I cannot imagine Jacob Rees-Mogg ever committing an undisciplined use of language.
In my opinion the Privileges Committee are pursuing their privileges to the nth degree, quite unnecessarily, and they are contemptible.
MaizieD Not following your logic todayâŠ
ronib
Itâs very important for Mps to be allowed to respectfully comment on matters which are important to them. I donât expect every mp to agree with every committee and itâs vital for divergent voices to be heard.
I donât think that the Privileges Committee was in any way prevented from doing its work by Rees Mogg, Cruddas and Dorries. It continues to do its work and I am expecting some censure of mps in yet another report.
You havenât read the report, have you? It deals with precisely this point very early on.
I seem to recall that you are fond of quoting Erskine May, so you may also be interested in the rules about contempt (from Erskine May) that the Privileges Committee use to determine contempt.
Siope Frankly the Privileges Committee was not prevented in any way from presenting its findings. End of story. A never ending work of fiction âŠ..
⊠you remind me of the bloke who wrote a nice review about the shrimp gumbo in the middle of a thread about the book, but alas for him not the restaurant, Ulysses.
Faintly amusing, but irrelevant and rather embarrassing for him.
Criticism of the Privileges Committee's findings and procedures by MPs when they publish a report to the House is allowable because reports are debated by the House. But criticism of any kind and especially harassment, threats, etc., while the Committee is doing the work commissioned by the House is not acceptable and the Committee is right to call it out and name names. Some of the so-called criticism was despicable and the House should consider suspending the offender's. It's nonsense to cast this as a free speech issue. That is simply designed to obfuscate.
Siope the real embarrassment lies with the way the House of Commons chooses to conduct itself. Shameful.
inews.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-penny-mordaunt-pm-privileges-committee-security-concern-2406889
Some members of the Privileges Committee were given extra security as a result of threats. That is no small thing. The comments were not respectful or based on the evidence collected by the committee but simply fed the fury of the type of person who would be motivated to make those threats. How could anyone defend that?
ronib
Siope the real embarrassment lies with the way the House of Commons chooses to conduct itself. Shameful.
And how is 'the way the House of commons chooses to conduct itself' embarrassing?
I have to agree with Siope, I think.
Maizie D only future historians will be able to assess this whole debacle.
I note that comments are quoted dated 9th June when the draft report had been written. Thereâs no way that comments then could be presented as intimidatory or actively preventing the completion of the report.
At the end of the day the House of Commons can produce as many reports and add on reports as it likes - we donât have to be sucked into yet another psychodrama. We can make our own judgments.
That doesn't explain it at all ronib.
We are talking about MPs being in contempt of Parliament because of comments they made about the Privileges Committee.
The security issue is a sperate issue.
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