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Contempt of Parliament

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Jun-23 07:14:18

Cruddas, Dorries and Rees-Mogg named by privileges committee for their un-disciplined use of language, amounting to contempt.

Why has Dorries formally resigned? She will now😄.

ronib Sat 01-Jul-23 17:21:48

Seems to me that the ministerial code is a bit iffy ….

ronib Sat 01-Jul-23 17:35:28

grandtanteJE65

Judging by televised proceedings in the British parliament, heckling members one disagrees with, noisy interruptions and so on are still regarded as part of parliamentary free speech.

This is shocking to those of us more used to European states, where such behaviour would not pass unnoticed or unreproved.

So obviously what may be said in Parliament is a matter of tradition. I would be surprised to learn that "contempt of parliament" is an offence known to the law, never having heard of it before.

If it is, then lying to parliament ought to be more serious than stating that this that or the other was a kangaroo court.

It is perhaps time for politicians to start reviewing what manners they find fitting during parliamentary sessions.

grandtanteJE65 yup couldn’t agree more with you. I have written to complain about the ridiculous lack of manners shown in the past in the HoC. It is hugely embarrassing to watch and shows no signs of improvement. Does such a lack of basic politeness help the business of the House? I doubt it.

MayBee70 Sat 01-Jul-23 20:28:18

ronib

Seems to me that the ministerial code is a bit iffy ….

Up until recently it worked because politicians in the main adhered to it. I wonder what has changed all of that hmm

MaizieD Sat 01-Jul-23 20:51:00

MayBee70

ronib

Seems to me that the ministerial code is a bit iffy ….

Up until recently it worked because politicians in the main adhered to it. I wonder what has changed all of that hmm

It's certainly iffy when it's written by a man who then constantly breaches it and refuses to sanction ministers who breach it.
We need the power to apply the Ministerial Code removing from the PM and given to, say, the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards. With the power to apply sanctions.

People were worrying in another thread about the absolute power which a PM has. The power over the MC seems to be one that would be easy to remove.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 01-Jul-23 20:55:28

We also need a much stronger speaker.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 01-Jul-23 20:55:57

Who is on top of his brief.

Callistemon21 Sat 01-Jul-23 20:58:36

eazybee

I cannot imagine Jacob Rees-Mogg ever committing an undisciplined use of language.
In my opinion the Privileges Committee are pursuing their privileges to the nth degree, quite unnecessarily, and they are contemptible.

Well, I'm surprised even though I'm not a fan of Jacob R-M.

I cannot imagine him being guilty of un-disciplined use of language, amounting to contempt

Gadzooks! You Tatterdemallion! You Just-Ass!

Modompodom Sat 01-Jul-23 21:12:17

I can't imagine Jacob Rees-Mogg being anything except correct in his speaking.

Siope Sat 01-Jul-23 21:34:07

But that does not make him correct in his behaviour, attitude or ethics.

Casdon Sat 01-Jul-23 21:40:20

Callistemon21

eazybee

I cannot imagine Jacob Rees-Mogg ever committing an undisciplined use of language.
In my opinion the Privileges Committee are pursuing their privileges to the nth degree, quite unnecessarily, and they are contemptible.

Well, I'm surprised even though I'm not a fan of Jacob R-M.

I cannot imagine him being guilty of un-disciplined use of language, amounting to contempt

Gadzooks! You Tatterdemallion! You Just-Ass!

Here’s one example.
www.thenational.scot/news/19461705.jacob-rees-mogg-sorry-yellow-peril-comment-commons/

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 02-Jul-23 14:57:43

Whitewavemark2

Who is on top of his brief.

Now their's a question to ssk of the 13 years of Tory misrule and sleezesmile

Maremia Mon 03-Jul-23 18:35:37

The SPEAKER was strong enough that time he told Caroline Lucas to hurry and finish her point. The reason for her delays was the constant barrage of haranguing she endured from the Government benches, which he did nothing to control. Yes, we need a SPEAKER who can do the job.

MayBee70 Mon 03-Jul-23 19:41:06

Maremia

The SPEAKER was strong enough that time he told Caroline Lucas to hurry and finish her point. The reason for her delays was the constant barrage of haranguing she endured from the Government benches, which he did nothing to control. Yes, we need a SPEAKER who can do the job.

That was in February 22 I think. I actually wrote to the Speakers office and complained about how he spoke to her. He made a habit of throwing his weight around with MP’s like her but ignoring people on the government benches especially, at the time, Johnson. I was furious.

Maremia Thu 06-Jul-23 17:37:22

Good for you! Sorry it's taken so long to respond, but there are so many brill threads on just now, and it's difficult to find your way back.