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BBC presenter allegations.

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Kandinsky Sun 09-Jul-23 13:10:49

I know the last thread was taken down at the op’s request - but if anyone wants to continue discussing this major news item I’ve started this one.

biglouis Tue 11-Jul-23 22:42:25

I feel pretty cynical of about these so called "complainents" who ooze out from under a rock when they see a way to make money or gain a bit of fame. I am thinking of how lives were ruined after the Saville scandal when some of those accused were found not guilty. When someone is found not guilty the accusers should be counter sued to the point of bankruptcy or charged with perjury.

Doodledog Tue 11-Jul-23 23:22:41

Anniebach

The 17 year old was in drugs before involved with the unnamed man Doodledog ?

I'm not sure why you are asking me grin, but yes, I think so. I assume (but this is speculation, so obviously feel free to ignore) that he wanted the money he made online to pay for them.

Nobody is suggesting that Mr X plied him with drugs, but that as an addict, regardless of age he was not capable of informed consent. much like when men have sex with girls who are drunk and are consequently charged with rape.

Doodledog Tue 11-Jul-23 23:26:22

When someone is found not guilty the accusers should be counter sued to the point of bankruptcy or charged with perjury.

Don't you worry that this will put people off coming forward? It is not easy to get charges of rape or sexual assault to stick at the best of times, but if a victim knew that she would be charged with perjury if a jury sided with the man, there would be even fewer rapists in court.

Callistemon21 Tue 11-Jul-23 23:29:11

biglouis

I feel pretty cynical of about these so called "complainents" who ooze out from under a rock when they see a way to make money or gain a bit of fame. I am thinking of how lives were ruined after the Saville scandal when some of those accused were found not guilty. When someone is found not guilty the accusers should be counter sued to the point of bankruptcy or charged with perjury.

If the accusations are unfounded and proved to be so then the accuser could be imprisoned, as has happened.

However, young, vulnerable adults seeking funding for their drug addiction by selling themselves in pornographic videos to older, rich, powerful men is really quite sickening.

Doodledog Tue 11-Jul-23 23:32:46

However, young, vulnerable adults seeking funding for their drug addiction by selling themselves in pornographic videos to older, rich, powerful men is really quite sickening.

Absolutely. And for an older, rich, powerful man to then come on TV and pose as a respectable family man compounds the felony.

DaisyAnneReturns Tue 11-Jul-23 23:38:12

Kate1949

I've just seen the report of three.

You have just seen malicious gossip. There is no evidence. There may be some evidence ultimately, or there may not. Meanwhile, this is something close to blood lust which, sadly, the old and female seem to do best.

Callistemon21 Tue 11-Jul-23 23:39:54

It's the sites I'm talking about, of which I was unaware until I saw it on GN.

Kate1949 Tue 11-Jul-23 23:41:04

The old and female? Blimey.

Dickens Wed 12-Jul-23 00:04:11

Kate1949

The old and female? Blimey.

... do you think we're being chastised grin?

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 12-Jul-23 00:06:03

Just remember the tricoteuses. That picture keeps coming to mind as I read this thread. Not all posts, obviously.

Doodledog Wed 12-Jul-23 00:10:40

DaisyAnneReturns

Just remember the tricoteuses. That picture keeps coming to mind as I read this thread. Not all posts, obviously.

😂😂

Well, that’s us told.

You really don’t have to keep reading this thread you know? As has been said, we are discussing the News in N&P, so don’t really need policing, though.

Kate1949 Wed 12-Jul-23 00:11:13

Well yes a bit Dickens but then I AM old and female. Daisy What is tricoteuses please?

Doodledog Wed 12-Jul-23 00:13:23

They knitted at the guillotine in revolutionary France as the heads of the nobles were chopped off.

Not exactly the same as commenting on a new story, but some enjoy stretching analogies to breaking point 😂

Doodledog Wed 12-Jul-23 00:13:41

News story

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 12-Jul-23 00:15:03

Dickens

Kate1949

The old and female? Blimey.

... do you think we're being chastised grin?

Aren't I allowed my opinion "Dickens". Is only a particular type of gossip allowed? That which destroys others but must not touch you. Do I have to stop suggesting that this conversation has built mountains on what seems to be a complete lack of actual evidence.

We may yet see this played out legally but we haven't yet.

Doodledog Wed 12-Jul-23 00:23:08

Do you have a vested interest in this story, Daisy, or do you just like telling others how to behave?

Nobody has named names or said anything libellous. I’m sure that HQ is monitoring the thread just in case. Nobody will be ‘destroyed’ because of what we say on here. Someone may lose his job because of his own actions, but whether we feel sorry for him or his victims will make no difference to that.

Anniebach Wed 12-Jul-23 00:45:32

I cannot recall the man coming on tv and speaking of being married, when did he do this Doodledog ?

Doodledog Wed 12-Jul-23 02:26:06

I assume from your post that you now know who it is? All the same, I don’t think we should be giving clues to his identity yet, should we? It will all be on the record soon enough.

BlueBelle Wed 12-Jul-23 06:32:29

Appears there are now 4 complainants according to the news this morning
Going up

Kandinsky Wed 12-Jul-23 06:39:54

His poor wife. ( if he has one of course )

NanaDana Wed 12-Jul-23 06:44:16

Good morning all. And so it continues.. as with every new development, further grist is added to the mill of those who are creating totally speculative worlds around this topic, and fleshing them out with imagined characters. If you read through what has been written in certain posts, in that totally imaginary construct, the Police investigation has been completed, and the “BBC presenter”, who has been masquerading on our screens as a family man, has not only been charged with an unspecified crime, but has gone to court, been found guilty, has been imprisoned, and has even been referred to the prison psychiatrist. I’m not making this up. I wish I was. I am at a total loss to understand why anyone would want to operate like this. As I’ve said on numerous occasions, all that we actually know is that certain allegations have been made, and that investigations are ongoing. Yes, the allegations may be true.. or not.. but we simply don't know. Simply wishing that they are true, for whatever reason, and writing fantasies around that is an utterly pointless exercise. Also, pretending that all that is happening here is that "the news" is being discussed is ridiculous. Some of it, not all, is simply gossip central, and although I feel that someone who has described the more extreme examples as "blood lust" is stretching it a bit, I can certainly see where they're coming from. It feels that there are some strange agendas at work here, and I don't begin to understand them. I also find it rather ironic that those who are self-appointed judge, jury and executioner then loudly complain that their excesses are now being judged by those who disagree with them. Bottom line? I find what is happening rather sad, but we've all seen it happen before, and it will no doubt happen again. Human nature? Not universally perhaps, but it persists with some..

Grammaretto Wed 12-Jul-23 06:45:34

Why are we hearing about this salacious drivel?
In other news: China has invaded Taiwan.

Kandinsky Wed 12-Jul-23 06:50:35

Start a separate thread about China invading Taiwan if you’d rather discuss that.

No one has to care about this BBC presenters private life.

bikergran Wed 12-Jul-23 07:02:02

I think I must be a bit dumb,I have no idea one little bit who this person might be,I wouldn't really know who has been taken off air,but no doubt the disclosure is imminent .

Galaxy Wed 12-Jul-23 07:03:53

Do you find it awful being old and female daisy?
When women discuss issues relating to power and the purchasing of sexual services that kind of statement is always rolled out. Very predictable.