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The Refugee Ship

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nanna8 Tue 18-Jul-23 13:52:15

I couldn’t believe this. Tell me it isn’t true. Back to the 18 th century.

Casdon Fri 21-Jul-23 18:16:21

In fact I’m appalled at the lack of compassion and the utter selfishness of some posters on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Shinamae Fri 21-Jul-23 18:16:22

Grim? 🤔

Casdon Fri 21-Jul-23 18:18:40

Very grim. As it just said on the news it looks like a 1980s cross channel ferry.

Shinamae Fri 21-Jul-23 18:24:40

Casdon

Very grim. As it just said on the news it looks like a 1980s cross channel ferry.

🤦‍♀️

karmalady Fri 21-Jul-23 18:26:12

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1793751/Bibby-Stockholm-Portland-barge-migrants-dorset

Callistemon21 Fri 21-Jul-23 18:36:01

Casdon

Very grim. As it just said on the news it looks like a 1980s cross channel ferry.

It looks serviceable and fit for purpose to me.

Better than a lot of UK rented accommodation and better than some schools which are near to collapse.

cupcake1 Fri 21-Jul-23 18:40:04

Shinamae 👏👏👍how many people would honestly want hundreds of bored single young men on their doorsteps whatever their race? Certainly not me.

MerylStreep Fri 21-Jul-23 18:48:24

I won’t put the details up describing how my friends daughter, husband and young baby are living but if they were offended that accommodation she would think she’d hit the jackpot.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 21-Jul-23 18:51:49

I really don’t see how this accommodation could be described as grim. It seems clean and serviceable, Our homeless people and those in substandard rental accommodation would jump at the chance of it - even without the extras of free food 24 hours a day (why the hell is that necessary?) Wi-Fi, mobile phones, transport, outings … it’s ridiculous,

karmalady Fri 21-Jul-23 18:52:08

How much does it cost to build a council house or apartment? How many could be built for our struggling families and homeless?

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 21-Jul-23 18:54:45

I don’t know but the land generally accounts for about a third of the cost. And land is expensive.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 21-Jul-23 18:56:34

And you can’t just build one apartment, you have to build a block - plus the infrastructure ….

Nicenanny3 Fri 21-Jul-23 19:11:30

18:16Casdon

In fact I’m appalled at the lack of compassion and the utter selfishness of some posters on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Just out of interest where do you think they should be housed then, what facilities and comforts are they missing

Casdon Fri 21-Jul-23 19:28:51

Nicenanny3

18:16Casdon

In fact I’m appalled at the lack of compassion and the utter selfishness of some posters on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

*Just out of interest where do you think they should be housed then, what facilities and comforts are they missing*

I’ve summarised what I think should happen already in this thread Nicenanny3.
In terms of accommodation specifically, I think housing people who are fleeing from war zones in bunk beds on a grim portakabin offshore is unacceptable, bearing in mind 70% of these men will ultimately be granted refugee status. If I were in charge I’d suggest they are boarded out one each with the Tory supporting most un compassionate Gransnetters actually to see if you feel the same about them when you hear the truth about what they have been through. Failing that, disused military facilities are probably the best option. Just to remind you, only 6% of asylum seekers have been processed since 2018, the Tory party has caused this backlog problem.

Shinamae Fri 21-Jul-23 19:41:27

Casdon

Nicenanny3

18:16Casdon

In fact I’m appalled at the lack of compassion and the utter selfishness of some posters on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

*Just out of interest where do you think they should be housed then, what facilities and comforts are they missing*

I’ve summarised what I think should happen already in this thread Nicenanny3.
In terms of accommodation specifically, I think housing people who are fleeing from war zones in bunk beds on a grim portakabin offshore is unacceptable, bearing in mind 70% of these men will ultimately be granted refugee status. If I were in charge I’d suggest they are boarded out one each with the Tory supporting most un compassionate Gransnetters actually to see if you feel the same about them when you hear the truth about what they have been through. Failing that, disused military facilities are probably the best option. Just to remind you, only 6% of asylum seekers have been processed since 2018, the Tory party has caused this backlog problem.

So how many are you going to take in Casdon?

Primrose53 Fri 21-Jul-23 19:42:12

Casdon

Nicenanny3

18:16Casdon

In fact I’m appalled at the lack of compassion and the utter selfishness of some posters on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

*Just out of interest where do you think they should be housed then, what facilities and comforts are they missing*

I’ve summarised what I think should happen already in this thread Nicenanny3.
In terms of accommodation specifically, I think housing people who are fleeing from war zones in bunk beds on a grim portakabin offshore is unacceptable, bearing in mind 70% of these men will ultimately be granted refugee status. If I were in charge I’d suggest they are boarded out one each with the Tory supporting most un compassionate Gransnetters actually to see if you feel the same about them when you hear the truth about what they have been through. Failing that, disused military facilities are probably the best option. Just to remind you, only 6% of asylum seekers have been processed since 2018, the Tory party has caused this backlog problem.

You are absolutely having a laugh aren’t you? i would happily stay on that barge, All Inclusive, I tell you!

“Disused military facilities are probably the best option.” 🤣🤣
You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. Most disused military sites have long ago been vandalised. A site not far from us was sold off and new house were for sale. we went to have a look and they had done up a few but the rest were unfit for human habitation.

My friend’s husband and son both work on the rigs and I have seen photos of their accommodation and they are not a patch on this barge.

Have you seen our veterans sleeping in shop doorways covered in old blankets and cardboard? They would jump at the chance of places like these?

Casdon Fri 21-Jul-23 19:42:19

Shinamae

Casdon

Nicenanny3

18:16Casdon

In fact I’m appalled at the lack of compassion and the utter selfishness of some posters on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

*Just out of interest where do you think they should be housed then, what facilities and comforts are they missing*

I’ve summarised what I think should happen already in this thread Nicenanny3.
In terms of accommodation specifically, I think housing people who are fleeing from war zones in bunk beds on a grim portakabin offshore is unacceptable, bearing in mind 70% of these men will ultimately be granted refugee status. If I were in charge I’d suggest they are boarded out one each with the Tory supporting most un compassionate Gransnetters actually to see if you feel the same about them when you hear the truth about what they have been through. Failing that, disused military facilities are probably the best option. Just to remind you, only 6% of asylum seekers have been processed since 2018, the Tory party has caused this backlog problem.

So how many are you going to take in Casdon?

The same as you Shinamae, obviously!

Shinamae Fri 21-Jul-23 19:44:35

Casdon

Shinamae

Casdon

Nicenanny3

18:16Casdon

In fact I’m appalled at the lack of compassion and the utter selfishness of some posters on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

*Just out of interest where do you think they should be housed then, what facilities and comforts are they missing*

I’ve summarised what I think should happen already in this thread Nicenanny3.
In terms of accommodation specifically, I think housing people who are fleeing from war zones in bunk beds on a grim portakabin offshore is unacceptable, bearing in mind 70% of these men will ultimately be granted refugee status. If I were in charge I’d suggest they are boarded out one each with the Tory supporting most un compassionate Gransnetters actually to see if you feel the same about them when you hear the truth about what they have been through. Failing that, disused military facilities are probably the best option. Just to remind you, only 6% of asylum seekers have been processed since 2018, the Tory party has caused this backlog problem.

So how many are you going to take in Casdon?

The same as you Shinamae, obviously!

I am more than satisfied with the accommodation they’re being offered. You obviously are not so need to put your money where your mouth is…🤓

henetha Fri 21-Jul-23 19:49:10

Having just seen the accommodation on TV, I can't agree that it's grim at all. And with medical and sport facilities and all very clean and tidy, I would think some of our homeless people would be only too glad to have the opportunity to move there while they get their lives sorted.

Casdon Fri 21-Jul-23 19:58:49

Primrose53

Casdon

Nicenanny3

18:16Casdon

In fact I’m appalled at the lack of compassion and the utter selfishness of some posters on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

*Just out of interest where do you think they should be housed then, what facilities and comforts are they missing*

I’ve summarised what I think should happen already in this thread Nicenanny3.
In terms of accommodation specifically, I think housing people who are fleeing from war zones in bunk beds on a grim portakabin offshore is unacceptable, bearing in mind 70% of these men will ultimately be granted refugee status. If I were in charge I’d suggest they are boarded out one each with the Tory supporting most un compassionate Gransnetters actually to see if you feel the same about them when you hear the truth about what they have been through. Failing that, disused military facilities are probably the best option. Just to remind you, only 6% of asylum seekers have been processed since 2018, the Tory party has caused this backlog problem.

You are absolutely having a laugh aren’t you? i would happily stay on that barge, All Inclusive, I tell you!

“Disused military facilities are probably the best option.” 🤣🤣
You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. Most disused military sites have long ago been vandalised. A site not far from us was sold off and new house were for sale. we went to have a look and they had done up a few but the rest were unfit for human habitation.

My friend’s husband and son both work on the rigs and I have seen photos of their accommodation and they are not a patch on this barge.

Have you seen our veterans sleeping in shop doorways covered in old blankets and cardboard? They would jump at the chance of places like these?

I’m not uninformed Primrose53, I do know about the homeless and their accommodation, as I was involved in some of the contracts where the NHS had an input. People were accommodated in single rooms in hostels. Some people choose however to sleep on the streets even when beds are available in hostels or they are offered more permanent accommodation, it’s a very complex picture. There is also specific support available for ex military personnel above that offered to other homeless people, and people work very hard to help them.
The military airbases the government are looking to use at the moment have been in use, although not necessarily as bases for troops, so they aren’t long abandoned vandalised sites. Most empty sites are also kept secure on behalf of the government until sold, I know of two sites where there is a security presence.
If you would be happy to stay on the barge, why not offer your services, you could dispense the milk of human kindness?

GrannyGravy13 Fri 21-Jul-23 20:04:51

What a holy, bloody awful mess

I couldn’t agree with you more Dickens

Casdon Fri 21-Jul-23 20:05:00

Shinamae

Casdon

Shinamae

Casdon

Nicenanny3

18:16Casdon

In fact I’m appalled at the lack of compassion and the utter selfishness of some posters on this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

*Just out of interest where do you think they should be housed then, what facilities and comforts are they missing*

I’ve summarised what I think should happen already in this thread Nicenanny3.
In terms of accommodation specifically, I think housing people who are fleeing from war zones in bunk beds on a grim portakabin offshore is unacceptable, bearing in mind 70% of these men will ultimately be granted refugee status. If I were in charge I’d suggest they are boarded out one each with the Tory supporting most un compassionate Gransnetters actually to see if you feel the same about them when you hear the truth about what they have been through. Failing that, disused military facilities are probably the best option. Just to remind you, only 6% of asylum seekers have been processed since 2018, the Tory party has caused this backlog problem.

So how many are you going to take in Casdon?

The same as you Shinamae, obviously!

I am more than satisfied with the accommodation they’re being offered. You obviously are not so need to put your money where your mouth is…🤓

Why aren’t I surprised you said that? I would accommodate somebody, particularly if they were allowed to work because I think they would be pretty unhappy to live in the middle of nowhere with no local access to services otherwise. Working makes a huge difference to people, it’s ridiculous that they have to spend their days doing nothing.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 21-Jul-23 20:07:09

Indeed Henetha. Is nothing short of five star accommodation acceptable for these wretched people? I truly cannot believe the luxury accommodation - and facilities - yet posters say it’s not good enough. What planet are you on, when people born and bred here, who have paid their taxes here, can’t hope for such accommodation and rely on food banks? It’s beyond belief,

Primrose53 Fri 21-Jul-23 20:09:50

Casdon …… here you go! This is the King’s Guard Wellington Barracks.

the illegal immigrants really would have something to complain about if they were put in army barracks!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11923645/Shocking-state-British-Armys-filthy-Wellington-Barracks-revealed.html

GrannyGravy13 Fri 21-Jul-23 20:14:52

Close friends of ours have taken in young male refugees, all with horrendous stories of their experiences and journeys to the U.K. absolutely heartbreaking.

The majority of these youngsters were kind and keen to attend college, some went on to university.

There were a couple who stole from them, lied and absconded, there are good and bad people from all races and backgrounds.