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FannyCornforth Sun 23-Jul-23 11:53:31

Hello

I was going to ask this on the existing ‘By Election’ thread, but I wondered if it warranted a thread of its own.

I’m interested in politics, but nowhere near as knowledgeable as many on the N&P board.

I’m a member of The Labour Party, but I’m toying with voting Lib Dem or, much more likely, Green.

However, I’m not over the moon with their stance of trans issues.

Does the UK have a future outside of The EU?
Or could Labour make it work?

I’m not pleased with Labour’s stance on Proportional Representation either…

My stance has always been to vote Labour in the next GE, as it’s seemingly the most efficient way to get the current incarnation of The Tories well and truly out.

But I’m wondering…

Thoughts? Thank you

(Now I’ve completed this post, I realise that I’ve mentioned a lot of issues)

Fleurpepper Wed 09-Aug-23 19:12:33

Dinahmo

Freya5

Riverwalk

Well, we are out of the EU, like it or not... thanks to the Tory Party. So it has to work and I expect that Labour will make a better fist of it than any other party.

Whatever Labour do, for good or evil, it can be assured that they will not inflict on us FIVE, yes FIVE prime ministers in seven years, nor will they inflict on us TEN, yes TEN education secretaries in 13 years.

It's like a banana republic.

So if Labour were in power,they would have ignored the wishes of 17 million plus voters. Really. Don't forget they could have won instead of Boris,if a they didn't have Corbyn and his communist henchmen, Momentum , running for pm. Not even my long life Labour voting town wanted him in charge.

It's not the wishes of 17,411 million, it's the wishes of about 1.270 because the remain voters (16141 million) cancel out most of the leave voters.

Indeed- and that was then. by now, the clear majority would vote against now they know the truth and reality. Add to that simple demographics- a lot of the oldied who voted for Brexit are no longer with us, younsters who could not vote, are very clear about their intentions- and those who could have voted but didn't- will not make the same mistake again.

Oreo Wed 09-Aug-23 20:38:16

No, they won’t have the chance to make that mistake again, there won’t be another referendum now that politicians see how it divides people.
It happened and will work as time goes on.Nobody I know even mentions it anymore tbh Covid came along and that took over as a worry and now most of us just enjoy getting on with our lives.

HousePlantQueen Wed 09-Aug-23 22:17:43

I shall vote tactically for whichever candidate has the best chance of getting rid of the most corrupt administration this country has ever suffered.

Hetty58 Wed 09-Aug-23 22:35:50

QuoteHousePlantQueen, ditto! I'd love to vote Green but it's vital, right now, to get the Tories out.

Dinahmo Wed 09-Aug-23 22:52:22

I too agree. WE need to get rid the Tories in order to restore some hope to the poorer amongst us.

Louella12 Wed 09-Aug-23 22:55:28

I'm certain that Labour will win the next election. No doubt about it. I'll eat my hat off they don't etc etc

However as far as the EU is concerned I don't share the optimism that youngsters care. We may see polls and research done pointing out that the timber generation are desperate to be part of the EU.

But in reality it's a fait accompli in their eyes. Brexit means very little. I work in a university and there is no passion for the EU. Its a fine deal in their eyes and they're more concerned with finding safe careers and worrying about rents/mortgages etc etc

I'm sure you will all have lots of anecdotal evidence suggesting in wrong but time will tell.

Labour will not be taking us back into the EU

And I was a Remainer. But what's done is done and this is a mere blip and we'll be OK.

henetha Wed 09-Aug-23 23:21:12

I'm a lib-dem at heart, but intend to vote labour at the next general election to help get rid of this dreadful Tory government. But, the lib-dems have traditionally always done well here in the south west, so maybe they have a better chance of achieving this aim.
I'm thinking it over and will decide next year.

Katie59 Thu 10-Aug-23 07:49:13

Could Labour make it work?

I’m certain they will make it work a lot better than it than at present, that will mean cooperating and accepting some of the EU regulations. Further integration may come in the long term.

The Lib Dems don’t have a strong national power base to challenge the two dominant parties, nor do they have policies that appeal to enough voters. They are very strong at local elections where their ideology has wider appeal amongst those that bother to vote.

pascal30 Thu 10-Aug-23 09:47:15

Now that my constituency has lost Caroline Lucas I will vote tactically which will mean Labour, only in order to displace the Conservatives.. I prefer Liberal Democrat policies and wish wholeheartedly that we could rejoin the EU..

Grantanow Thu 10-Aug-23 10:32:24

Chiefly I blame the political opportunists like Johnson and the ERG loonies who misled those who voted Leave. They probably misled some intelligent voters as well as the others. And I blame Corbyn for obfuscation and the ineffective Remain campaigners for poor performance. Hopefully, at some point a politician will have the guts to argue for rejoining the EU otherwise we may as well turn the lights out.

MaizieD Thu 10-Aug-23 12:34:32

pascal30

Now that my constituency has lost Caroline Lucas I will vote tactically which will mean Labour, only in order to displace the Conservatives.. I prefer Liberal Democrat policies and wish wholeheartedly that we could rejoin the EU..

It seems that Eddie Izzard is your Labour candidate. A more apt choice for Brighton than for Sheffield, perhaps, but why won't you continue to vote Green? Is the Green candidate not as good as Lucas?

MaizieD Thu 10-Aug-23 12:36:37

Oh, sorry pascal30. I made an assumption about your past voting behaviour that wasn't justified by the information in your post. Please ignore me!