White Privilege - MET Police

She created the situation herself. She only has herself to blame.

There are endless stories around people stopped for alleged shoplifting, bags searched and then found to be innocent.

This happens across class, culture and gender.

They don't all cause a huge fuss and try to make it about "unconscious bias".🙄

It is surely common sense to keep your pass/ticket/whatever handy, when travelling, so that you produce them if required.

Ticket Inspectors have a job to do - if someone refuses to produce proof of payment, then refuses the request of a PCSO, what does anyone expect them to do?

Let her off because she's screaming and shouting? Because her male relative was creating a huge fuss? Colour, gender?

Not how it works...🙄

Callistemon21
Oh no, that is me. I am white British. I am stopped.
At every airport.
Likewise. The number of times I’m made to stand feet apart and arms out to the side, to be frisked, or I have to go to a person to have my passport checked instead of the machine that passes everyone else including DH, makes me feel paranoid.
And why is my car always taken aside to be checked at the ferry port when there are thousands of others just driving through?
I find it embarrassing and very irritating.
It must be even worse if you suspect it’s just because of your skin colour.

"Let her off because she's screaming and shouting? Because her male relative was creating a huge fuss? Colour, gender?"
He wasn't a relative. He was reported as saying that he regards any black female as being his "sister".

I get searched a lot ,too and for some reason I always set alarms off. I haven’t got any knee replacements,hip replacements or anything like that and I don’t have jewellery on. I think they are set to ‘carpet h’ every 10 the person as a warning to others or something. Also, they pick people who look as though they won’t cause trouble and white grannies fit the bill. I actually think it is quite racist , they are picking on white Anglo saxons who are a minority race on this side of the world.

‘Carpet h’ = ‘catch’

nanna8

I get searched a lot ,too and for some reason I always set alarms off. I haven’t got any knee replacements,hip replacements or anything like that and I don’t have jewellery on. I think they are set to ‘carpet h’ every 10 the person as a warning to others or something. Also, they pick people who look as though they won’t cause trouble and white grannies fit the bill. I actually think it is quite racist , they are picking on white Anglo saxons who are a minority race on this side of the world.

I’ve thought the same in the past at Gatwick here tbh 😁

Bodach

"Let her off because she's screaming and shouting? Because her male relative was creating a huge fuss? Colour, gender?"
He wasn't a relative. He was reported as saying that he regards any black female as being his "sister".

Apologies. It was reported, in the report I read, to be her brother.

nanna8

What you describe is not racism

I got quite excited at "carpet h" - I thought perhaps it was a specially designated you got sent to if you set the alarm off.
I haven't flown much recently. 🙃

Oh for goodness sake! The woman could have stopped this getting out of hand (and therefore protected her child from witnessing a very traumatising scene!!) by simply showing her ticket when asked! As for her ‘brother’ - surely if he was indeed that, he wouldn’t be heard asking ‘is this her child?’ in the video?? Some people don’t help themselves ….

Specially designated PLACE. Sigh.

I think it is racism. I’m not talking about British airports, haven’t been to one for several years now.

Of course it’s racism if white people are targeted.

It's not racism

Unless all white people have been systematically oppressed in all areas of their lives no matter their nationality or culture just for having a certain skin colour... It's not racism

VioletSky

It's not racism

Unless all white people have been systematically oppressed in all areas of their lives no matter their nationality or culture just for having a certain skin colour... It's not racism

Having had a horrendous experience at Passport/Border control getting out of an African Country, I have definitely experienced racism.

The staff were dreadful in their attitude, body language and in the way they spoke to me and then laughed between in each other in their own language.

All the time you are in the west, you cannot experience racism due to the power balance of white people.

You can experience discrimination but not racism in the UK or in western countries, as a white person

You would have to be a minority group in a country where everyone belonging to your minority group is treated as inferior to experience racism

I don't make the definitions of words but that's the truth

So if you walk up to a black person in the UK and say you have experienced racism in the UK or other western countries they would probably feel offended

Also again technically, people being rude at the airport wherever it is is not going to have a social and economical impact on your entire life as so again that would be discrimination

Discrimination isn't a good thing either but in order to combat discrimination and racism it's important to understand what both actually mean

If you don't, then you risk not having the understanding of what minority groups actual face and that doesn't fight against it

If you’re discriminated against because you’re a different colour, it’s racist.

I give up

I'm trying to educate not having a go

VioletSky

I give up

I'm trying to educate not having a go

Have you ever lived in a predominantly black Country?

Have you ever been ignored in a shop in that country?

Have you ever been made to wait in a restaurant/bar in that country whilst locals were seated /served before you?

One of our AC can answer yes to all of the above, when we visited for a month, we can answer yes to the second two.

So please do not try to educate me or others on here who may have had similar experiences.

VioletSky

All the time you are in the west, you cannot experience racism due to the power balance of white people.

You can experience discrimination but not racism in the UK or in western countries, as a white person

You would have to be a minority group in a country where everyone belonging to your minority group is treated as inferior to experience racism

I don't make the definitions of words but that's the truth

So if you walk up to a black person in the UK and say you have experienced racism in the UK or other western countries they would probably feel offended

Here is what I said quoted again Grannygravy so that you can see that I didn't say otherwise

But again, you would have to be discriminated against on a social and economic level in a country you lived in to have any idea what racial prejudice feels like to black people in the UK

And detracting from what black people experience is quite frowned upon in many circles

I was turned away from a Ska club in Lewisham in the 60s dispute the fact that I was with my black friend.

This is what racism and oppression has achieved

People not having the same opportunities in life. It effects subsequent generations

youtu.be/yZ670ooc6Qc