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Brexit Import controls delayed for the FOURTH TIME!

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Fleurpepper Mon 07-Aug-23 10:34:09

How can businesses, trying to recover from Covid and the war in Ukraine, etc- cope with not knowing if and when and how they will be able to import from EU? This is an absolute shambles- and indicates that the Tory Governement were, at the time of the Referendum, totally unprepared for the consequences, and still are clueless 7 years later.

Controls were supposed to be finally imposed from 1st of November- 11 weeks from now. Businesses, hauliers, etc, etc, are supposed to be spending much time, and costly expertise, technology, etc- preparing - AGAIN - but still have NO information at all about how it will work and be implemented- for the 4th time- in just a few weeks.

Could you really blame EU and other exporters to UK if they just decide that, in those circumstances- they will just stop exporting to UK. We are not talking here about fancy cheeses and wine, but essential goods, chemicals, medicines, parts, fruit and veg, and so much more. At the moment, the EU could export anything to the UK without any controls- yes MEAT and other stuff that could bring catastrophic disease and sub-standard electrical goods, etc.

youtu.be/Uw-NIpE5Yh8

What a shambles.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 08-Aug-23 19:43:46

How dare you say that I have ‘NO idea about struggling families’. fp? Do you think the person buying one chop or two slices of bacon is rich?
Have I said on this thread that I’m all right Jack? I live in an area where there is considerable wealth and great poverty. How dare you, from the comfort of your big house in Switzerland, say I have NO idea of the situation that people who live in this country face? How dare you presume to know better than I what is happening in the country I live in? Just how dare you?

Callistemon21 Tue 08-Aug-23 19:46:58

MaizieD

Gnet posters are so relentlessly middle bl**dy class...

Well, some of you are!!

Callistemon21 Tue 08-Aug-23 19:48:51

Fleurpepper

MerylStreep

Shall we shine a light at that esteemed Swiss company, Nestle
Yes ? They’ve come up with some corkers to save money ( or fiddle) unfortunately they killed people along the way.

utopia.org/guide/crime-controversy-nestles-5-biggest-scandals-explained/

Hurrah, and for once, we agree. Nestlé's business aims and tactics are disgusting, and aimed mainly at the poorest in the third world. Most of the people I know agree, and would not own shares or work there. Sadly 1000s of expats work for them, many from UK, and on vast salaries. Despicable- glad we agree. What is has to do with this thread however, I have NO idea.

From Farming Business today- they are very concerned. Because they have to abide by all EU rules and all their exported foods to EU are thoroughly checked- but they suffer unfair competition from unchecked food coming in from EU- and now also from Indonesia and Australia.

Concerns over food security and exposure to disease

With the government missing its most recent legislative timeline, NFU Scotland president Martin Kennedy has called on the Cabinet Office to make a formal announcement on the delay and provide a fresh timescale for introducing border checks.

“The Scottish food and farming sector is yet again angered and appalled at a decision that seriously disregards the interests of our home food producers in favour of a cheap food policy that encourages asymmetric trade.”

While the government was due to roll out a new Border target operating model (TOM) on 31st October, followed by physical import checks starting in January 2024 and a full regime in place by October 2024, NFU Scotland was extremely disappointed to learn that ongoing delays are set to continue.

Mr Kennedy also highlighted that the government’s “lax approach” to border controls increases the risk of farmers and crofters being exposed to devastating animal and plant diseases such as African Swine Fever.

“The longer there is no effective system in place, the greater the distortion of the market for UK producers – with importers facing less bureaucracy and cost than those looking to export produce from the UK to EU – and the longer our borders are left open to the potential introduction of plant and animal diseases.

“We understand that the UK Government will shortly set out the new timetable for the import regime, to finally deliver a level playing field for UK farming, food and drink sectors. Regrettably, there will be little confidence amongst industry that the timetable will be adhered to,” Mr Kennedy concluded.

British Veterinary Association president Malcolm Morley also expressed frustration over the government delaying the introduction of crucial border checks on EU food imports, adding the move is putting the UK’s biosecurity at serious risk of imported diseases.

“The British Veterinary Association urges the Government to urgently press ahead with introducing the checks or risk the safety and security of our agricultural industry, food security and UK public health.”

You might have known it's the British who work at Nestlé who are at fault MerylStreep

You couldn't make it up
😂😂😂

Foxygloves Tue 08-Aug-23 19:49:06

So why do you keep saying 'Me and mine are fine, alright (sic) Jack' - very strange

Nowhere have I seen GSM or anybody else say this or imply it in any way.

Norah Tue 08-Aug-23 19:49:46

Fleurpepper So why do you keep saying 'Me and mine are fine, alright Jack' - very strange.

Nobody has said anything remotely akin to that.

We've all given opinions, told observations, not all gloomy.

You may be gloomy as you like about Brexit, most have moved along.

Foxygloves Tue 08-Aug-23 19:50:59

Sadly 1000s of expats work for them, many from UK, and on vast salaries. Despicable- glad we agree
As an ex-pat yourself living in Switzerland I dare say you have come across many of them ?

Norah Tue 08-Aug-23 19:52:25

Foxygloves

^So why do you keep saying 'Me and mine are fine, alright (sic) Jack' - very strange^

Nowhere have I seen GSM or anybody else say this or imply it in any way.

Show off!! grin Same words, expressed better.

Or more gooder as our GC would say.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 08-Aug-23 19:55:24

Well I certainly wouldn’t say I was ‘alright’. Never. I have respect for the English language.

Callistemon21 Tue 08-Aug-23 19:55:50

Foxygloves

^So why do you keep saying 'Me and mine are fine, alright (sic) Jack' - very strange^

Nowhere have I seen GSM or anybody else say this or imply it in any way.

No, I can't find it anywhere.
🤔

Foxygloves Tue 08-Aug-23 19:58:05

Germanshepherdsmum

Well I certainly wouldn’t say I was ‘alright’. Never. I have respect for the English language.

It didn’t sound like you, or like English either! 🤣🤣🤣

GrannyGravy13 Tue 08-Aug-23 20:00:10

Fleurpepper I have never said that me and mine are fine, alright jack

What I have endeavoured to do is point out that the U.K. is not the quagmire that you persistently make it out to be.

Fleurpepper Tue 08-Aug-23 20:00:31

Callistemon21

Foxygloves

So why do you keep saying 'Me and mine are fine, alright (sic) Jack' - very strange

Nowhere have I seen GSM or anybody else say this or imply it in any way.

No, I can't find it anywhere.
🤔

You should re-read the whole thread- it starts very early on and keeps on throughout. As for typos, we all make them, don't we?

Foxyglove - I live in a very different area from the Nestlé rich Brits- closer to those who work for Phillip Morris- just as despicable mind you.

Several British citizens around here- totally integrated, speak the language well, highly respected- and do not live in 'expat' bubble as they do in Geneva, Zurich and Zug and the Nestlé Riviera. The relevance to this thread? NONE- zilch.

Foxygloves Tue 08-Aug-23 20:01:46

With respect, and for future reference

Fleurpepper Tue 08-Aug-23 20:03:39

Type fast, make odd typo and quick paraphrase. Thanks for the 'respect', very much appreciated ;)

Joseann Tue 08-Aug-23 20:06:02

Callistemon21

Foxygloves

So why do you keep saying 'Me and mine are fine, alright (sic) Jack' - very strange

Nowhere have I seen GSM or anybody else say this or imply it in any way.

No, I can't find it anywhere.
🤔

I wish we could have a shake up and that the few GNs who accuse other GNs of being stony, uncaring, unsympathetic middle-class wotsits could spend a period of time living alongside them to see that these people might just be the most compassionate and supportive people they could find.

Callistemon21 Tue 08-Aug-23 20:16:21

Joseann

Callistemon21

Foxygloves

So why do you keep saying 'Me and mine are fine, alright (sic) Jack' - very strange

Nowhere have I seen GSM or anybody else say this or imply it in any way.

No, I can't find it anywhere.
🤔

I wish we could have a shake up and that the few GNs who accuse other GNs of being stony, uncaring, unsympathetic middle-class wotsits could spend a period of time living alongside them to see that these people might just be the most compassionate and supportive people they could find.

I think some of those accusers might not like slumming
it chez nous.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 08-Aug-23 20:38:09

‘Alright’ isn’t a typo.

Fleurpepper Tue 08-Aug-23 20:58:12

Germanshepherdsmum

‘Alright’ isn’t a typo.

Who cares- it's a mistake when typing fast. Irrelevant, 100%.

Joseann- perhaps so. We can only judge on what they write and the sentiments, attitudes and prejudices within.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 08-Aug-23 21:04:33

Sorry, I don’t buy the typo. Who cares? I for one..

Fleurpepper Tue 08-Aug-23 21:18:42

Your prerogative. I am very lucky, I can make such mistakes (rarely, but ...) in many languages. I always understood that highlighting such on a Forum is out of order and very rude- but your choice.

Shall we go back to the subject of the OP now?

DaisyAnneReturns Tue 08-Aug-23 22:15:33

Norah

Fleurpepper So why do you keep saying 'Me and mine are fine, alright Jack' - very strange.

Nobody has said anything remotely akin to that.

We've all given opinions, told observations, not all gloomy.

You may be gloomy as you like about Brexit, most have moved along.

We have all had to move along - no choice, it's what life does.

However, during that "moving" nothing positive has come from the long past/dead Brexit.

MerylStreep Tue 08-Aug-23 22:17:26

Germanshepherdsmum

Sorry, I don’t buy the typo. Who cares? I for one..

Some habits are hard to break 😉

DaisyAnneReturns Tue 08-Aug-23 22:22:27

Some posters should know better than to pick others up on such things.

Foxygloves Tue 08-Aug-23 23:23:43

And others should not accuse them of saying things they did not.

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 09-Aug-23 08:53:39

Foxygloves

And others should not accuse them of saying things they did not.

Not enough information. Could you explain what you are referring to?