54 migrants rescued this morning in French waters are brought to UK

Why don't they blame the government for underfunding the health service and education budgets being slashed? staff leaving in droves? Is that the fault of migrants?

I don't think it's about blame. But, obviously, if you have 100 people waiting at A&E, the room will get cleared quicker than if there are 200 waiting.

It's about numbers and N`hS competence/capabilities.

I think doubling the population is a bit of an over estimate

What about the other story of the men on the ship's rudder for 14days in the Atlantic. They ended up in Brazil. These people must be so very desperate to put their lives at risk.

6% of the UK population apparently was not born in the UK so at a maximum you would be looking at 6 added to that 100

Although you can then take away the 9% of British nationals that live abroad... So actually we should be managing fine

Most European countries have a problem with the migrants, not just us. Also we do not take as many as say Germany for example. Italy also has a big problem as that is one of the first counties they land in if coming from Africa. Just remember these people are human beings, most living in grinding poverty who just want a better life and who can blame them. I agree it's a huge problem for our country and there doesn't seem to be a solution.

They can’t be living in grinding poverty if they can find £4000 to pay a people smuggler.
Those in grinding poverty are still in their home countries.

grannyrebel7

Most European countries have a problem with the migrants, not just us. Also we do not take as many as say Germany for example. Italy also has a big problem as that is one of the first counties they land in if coming from Africa. Just remember these people are human beings, most living in grinding poverty who just want a better life and who can blame them. I agree it's a huge problem for our country and there doesn't seem to be a solution.

Precisely. And it dawned on me just now that some people on this forum don’t seem to be speaking about migrants as if they’re fellow human beings.This is a very slippery slope and a dangerous one.

^Why is it so chaotic here when we have far fewer asylum
Compared with Germany, could it be that they were faced with a sudden massive influx that they just had to get on and do something? In comparison, the UK has seen an unrelenting trickle, so the government wrongly thought things would slow down or they could cope bit by bit?

CoolCoco

Why don't they blame the government for underfunding the health service and education budgets being slashed? staff leaving in droves? Is that the fault of migrants?

That’s what people have been gaslighted into thinking unfortunately.

If you got rid of all the non British born staff in the NHS, you'd have a longer wait at A and E.

CoolCoco

If you got rid of all the non British born staff in the NHS, you'd have a longer wait at A and E.

yawn!!! 😴. How many times have we heard that and we all know it!! However, they are here LEGALLY!!!

We are at the hospital several times a month for my husband and Thursday he saw an Egyptian consultant, previously he has seen Indian, Chinese and african consultants. He has seen Portuguese and Filipino nurses. But they are here LEGALLY.

Mamie

So five French ships and two British ships involved in rescue, with injured in hospital in Calais.
Not quite how it is portrayed in some of the posts above.

That’s because, as usual, the news changed as the hours went by. What I reported was breaking news so not all details were available.

Human beings aren't illegal, they are simply displaced and needing help

I once met a woman who was angry that people were collecting for refugees because "We should be helping are own!!!11"

I told her she was quite welcome to start her own collection for "are own" but she then regaled me with how she flies abroad to help stray dogs be brought to the UK

I will never understand a person who believes a dog is a dog anywhere but a human is an unwanted inconvenience unless they directly benefit from their existence

But I expect in her position she gets unwavering love and loyalty from dogs and hasn't figured out her personality is why other humans don't give her the respect she thinks she is due

Saving life at sea is far, far more important than squabbling about territorial waters. Good on the RNLI!

If we had not Brexited the EU there would be no question they could be returned to France. Just saying!

Apparently every time the zRNLI are involved in a headline asylum seeker rescue their donations go up.

Good isn’t it?

Some of us just prefer dogs VS.

Primrose53 of course the people working in the NHS are legal, there are huge fines for employing someone who does not have leave to work in this country but what you do not know is how many of them came here to seek asylum, were granted it and are therefore now able to work. The NHS and Social care employ 3 million people, you can be certain that lots of them either came here as refugees or are the relatives of people who came here as refugees. They will be represented across the whole spectrum of the workforce from consultants to cleaners, nurses to porters, just open your eyes when you are next in a hospital!

Primrose53

Mamie

So five French ships and two British ships involved in rescue, with injured in hospital in Calais.
Not quite how it is portrayed in some of the posts above.

That’s because, as usual, the news changed as the hours went by. What I reported was breaking news so not all details were available.

Plus it was 13 (or 10 in some reports) survivors taken to England and the rest went to Calais.
So your OP was pretty inaccurate really.

VioletSky

6% of the UK population apparently was not born in the UK so at a maximum you would be looking at 6 added to that 100

Although you can then take away the 9% of British nationals that live abroad... So actually we should be managing fine

Yeah, ok. I can only guess you don't live in London or near the South coast.🙄

Mamie

Primrose53

Mamie

So five French ships and two British ships involved in rescue, with injured in hospital in Calais.
Not quite how it is portrayed in some of the posts above.

That’s because, as usual, the news changed as the hours went by. What I reported was breaking news so not all details were available.

Plus it was 13 (or 10 in some reports) survivors taken to England and the rest went to Calais.
So your OP was pretty inaccurate really.

No it wasn’t, it was accurate at the time the news broke.

I am from South London

I just don't have an issue with it

And I don't see people having an issue with British nationals living elsewhere either... How do you feel about that Diamond lily?

Germanshepherdsmum

Some of us just prefer dogs VS.

Yes, some prefer an animal that will give them unconditional love rather than earn any from humans, like the lady I spoke about.

VioletSky

I am from South London

I just don't have an issue with it

And I don't see people having an issue with British nationals living elsewhere either... How do you feel about that Diamond lily?

Ok, the fine. If you're living in South London, and don't see the pressures on everything, then that's lovely. 👍

Why would I have a problem with Brits emigrating? That doesn't affect me, and it's not upsetting anyone else, then that's lovely as well. 👍👍

The RNLI is funded by donations by the British in order for them to rescue those in difficulty in British waters. No wonder donations are dropping!