‘Grandad’s Pride’. Really?

VioletSky

Have heteeosexual people ever had to fight for their rights? Been oppressed?

Incidentally there is a straight flag and I have seen it a pride

Yes. Some heterosexuals have had to fight for their rights. Although better now, as most are, a woman of colour with a white man was seen as wrong and they had a difficult life because sex between them was perceived as somewhat deviant. Obviously racist too.

VioletSky

Everyone is represented by the rainbow

My flag is the Union Jack, I do not feel the need to parade under any another flag, nor do I feel the need to overtly publicise my sexual orientation.

Oh so this thread is about trans people now?

I don't believe trans people have harmed me in any way by existing so I don't worry about that

People publicise all sorts of things about who they have relationships with, their marriage status for one

Mr and Mrs is just one way

Anyway, ready to go on our picnic, not often all 7 of us have a day out, will sit on our rainbow blanket and have a chat about how it is good to be inclusive in a diverse family

I'm more puzzled by the stupid school's response, something along the lines that children don't know what eroticism is anyway.
So why waste valuable teaching time exploring a story with those very connotations?

If that's what they said that is against all safeguarding guidelines.

In our family we don't need to talk about how good it is to be inclusive, we just are.

Smileless2012

In our family we don't need to talk about how good it is to be inclusive, we just are.

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VioletSky

Anyway, ready to go on our picnic, not often all 7 of us have a day out, will sit on our rainbow blanket and have a chat about how it is good to be inclusive in a diverse family

Have a lovely day chatting.

I made a rainbow blanket, it is much loved.

Galaxy

If that's what they said that is against all safeguarding guidelines.

The dad who raised the issue with the school received this reply ...........
"They [Genesis Pre-School] said, 'You know it's erotic, we know it's erotic. But that's just our opinion because we're grown-ups. A child would not understand it to be erotic'.

GrannyGravy13

Smileless2012

In our family we don't need to talk about how good it is to be inclusive, we just are.

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Well, quite.

It's not something we've ever chatted about either, we just tend to chat about family members and what they're doing at the moment.

Joseann

Galaxy

If that's what they said that is against all safeguarding guidelines.

The dad who raised the issue with the school received this reply ...........
^"They [Genesis Pre-School] said, 'You know it's erotic, we know it's erotic. But that's just our opinion because we're grown-ups. A child would not understand it to be erotic'.^

So it is erotic.

And next on the reading list - The Kama Sutra.
Not that the toddlers will understand it.

If they read their safeguarding guidelines they would know very clearly that a childs understanding is not to be considered with regard to inappropriate images.

VioletSky

Everyone is represented by the rainbow

Oh, I agree, it's not exclusive to any particular group as no-one can claim a rainbow as theirs.

It's an optical phenomenon and we all love to see one.

Unfortunately in the same way as the cross of St George is only now emerging from its National Front/England First connotations, the rainbow has very much been annexed by Pride - except when accompanied by unicorns 🦄

So, if a child would not understand the eroticism contained in the book, why have it there at all?

VioletSky

People don't have sex at Pride?

I don't know Violet - do they?

PRIDE is about diversity. I'm sure in everyday life those taking part do very ordinary things like shopping, working, cooking, cleaning, etc - but that is not what they are celebrating is it? The whole point of PRIDE is for those on the marches, events, to claim pride in who they are, legitimately.

When grandad - or indeed, grandma, or in fact anyone - strides out in their fetish, bondage, whatever, apparel, they are emphasising (celebrating) their sexuality, as they are when they wear an item of clothing that accentuates a particular body part. It's about sex as much as it about everything else.

Of course, they don't all dress that way - some just wear ordinary clothes - but that illustration of grandad in his 'gear' is exhibiting his sexuality... so explain that to a four year old.

Many years back, one of my closest friends was `(and still is) gay.

This was long before it was "fashionable". I've been to a couple of early Pride carnivals, which were great fun.

I went to a gay club with some of him and his friends. Male and female. No problem, and a lot of laughs and fun.

But, I wouldn't have exposed my (then) young children to either of those things, because it wasn't appropriate.

They knew he had a boyfriend, and mates who had boyfriends - they often came to dinner, but there was no need for convoluted explanations. They were who they were.

No need for erotica, no need for bondage clothes, no need for anything like that in my house, with my children. Sex, in any form, was not on the dinner table.

Let kids be kids - the sexual stuff is not needed at that age.🙄

VioletSky

Anyway, ready to go on our picnic, not often all 7 of us have a day out, will sit on our rainbow blanket and have a chat about how it is good to be inclusive in a diverse family

You do, I guess, realise that some of us posting on here also have family members, friends and acquaintances, who are gay, lesbian, bi, etc, etc?

We might not sit on a rainbow blanket nor polish our inclusivity badges, but as these family members and friends are part of the circle we mix with, in my case on an almost daily basis, I think the inclusivity speaks for itself.

We might not sit on a rainbow blanket nor polish our inclusivity badges Us neither My very diverse (races and sexualities) family find much more interesting things to chat about than how wonderfully diverse and inclusive we are. Goodness, even the weather forecast would interest us more 🤣🤣

Dickens

VioletSky

Anyway, ready to go on our picnic, not often all 7 of us have a day out, will sit on our rainbow blanket and have a chat about how it is good to be inclusive in a diverse family

You do, I guess, realise that some of us posting on here also have family members, friends and acquaintances, who are gay, lesbian, bi, etc, etc?

We might not sit on a rainbow blanket nor polish our inclusivity badges, but as these family members and friends are part of the circle we mix with, in my case on an almost daily basis, I think the inclusivity speaks for itself.

Very well said.

And when inclusivity speaks for itself, there's no need for virtue signalling is there Dickens.

VioletSky

Anyway, ready to go on our picnic, not often all 7 of us have a day out, will sit on our rainbow blanket and have a chat about how it is good to be inclusive in a diverse family

I can think of a million and one more pleasurable, not to mention fun, ways of spending time with my family than chatting about how good it is to be inclusive in a diverse family
Sitting on a rainbow blanket or not. Ye gods.
You were being ironic I hope?
(yawn -boring)

Joseann

I'm more puzzled by the stupid school's response, something along the lines that children don't know what eroticism is anyway.
So why waste valuable teaching time exploring a story with those very connotations?

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