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Interesting article - Harry the trauma exhibitionist.

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RosesandLilac Mon 04-Sep-23 08:29:16

meron152.substack.com/p/prince-harry-the-trauma-exhibitionist
I came across this article posted on MN.
It strikes me as very perceptive as Harry yet again drags up his mother’s death at the Invictus Games.
It’s so inappropriate and disrespectful to those thousands of injured servicemen and their relatives that an over-privileged, extremely wealthy individual constantly turns the subject to himself.

Anniebach Mon 04-Sep-23 11:29:39

The games start on 9th September, I am sure the participants will receive much press coverage.

BlueBelle Mon 04-Sep-23 11:40:22

silverlining I so agree with your post childhood trauma lasts a lifetime and all the unnecessary vitriol thrown at this young couple is beyond my belief
Why ?
If you don’t like them move on I m no fan of the royal family but blimey it’s really nasty to keep hearing it over and over

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Sep-23 12:21:38

I did give him credit Glorianny, I said the games are something he should be immensely proud of. It's H IMO who focused on the wrong thing; himself. Something that he does constantly.

Anniebach Mon 04-Sep-23 12:29:02

Is 38 and 42 years young or middle aged

eazybee Mon 04-Sep-23 12:49:56

It occurred to me yesterday that it is twenty-six years since my mother died, two months before Diana.She wasn't 37 and I wasn't 12, so obviously not a tragedy just a natural progression. When she died I was divorced, no living relatives, children at University, and the saddest thing was that though friends and colleagues were kind and sympathetic, no-one here had ever met her, so no-one to talk to and share reminiscences about her.

I find the constant reiteration of 'I had no-one to talk to' 'no-one understood the trauma of coming back from Afghanistan.' very self-indulgent. He is the member of a large family, of all ages, not all royalty, some of whom have experienced war and action, (think Princes Philip and Andrew) and loss of family in tragic circumstances (the Mountbatten family.)

Wallowing in self-pity is never going to help, and doing it publicly repeatedly is worse.

sodapop Mon 04-Sep-23 12:50:27

My grandchildren father died when they were younger than Harry. They have gone on to make successes of their lives and to make him proud of them. So forgive me if I find Harry's constant whining annoying.

Anniebach Mon 04-Sep-23 12:52:00

There is also the Spencer family

Glorianny Mon 04-Sep-23 13:22:00

sodapop

My grandchildren father died when they were younger than Harry. They have gone on to make successes of their lives and to make him proud of them. So forgive me if I find Harry's constant whining annoying.

So is starting the Invictus games, starting a charity in Africa and moving to the US in order to protect his children from the invasive British press and the paparazzi not a success then?

sassysaysso Mon 04-Sep-23 13:54:26

No fan of H&M but

Meghan grew up in a place - Los Angeles - where therapy and therapy speak and examining your emotions is the norm. Harry is now living there and married to an LA actress so it's not surprising that he has been acclimatised to and adopted the local language and mode of communication that appears self indulgent twaddle to many others. He has been captured by the local 'me me me' behaviour of place

cc Mon 04-Sep-23 14:10:24

Glorianny

What a pity that a documentary about injured service people, the trauma they experience and the support and help they have gained through sport and the games should be highlighted in the British Press only because of a speech by the person who helped to establish it, but who is consistently rubbished by them for saying nasty things about the royal family.

I agree, the games are a good idea and any support they give to damaged and injured service people is great. But it isn't really about Harry.
It's sad that he lost his mother, but many, many people lose their mothers every year, at various ages. It was a long time ago and it is well past the time he should be looking for sympathy, it doesn't excuse his behaviour. To many of us Harry is an irrelevance and I wish that he would stop inserting himself into anything that garners publicity.

M0nica Mon 04-Sep-23 14:24:06

Prince Harry is not the only child to lose his mother. Everyday children lose their parent and the majority of them go on to live useful and purposeful lives without having to tell everyone about their misery all the time.

I do not doubt the trauma such children suffer, my DiL, my mother and my grandmother all grew up in families, where their father died when they were young and I have seen how this affects people through three different generations.

Many more children lose parents through relationship breakdown and quite a few people in the public eye had a parent who walked out and was never seen again.

But we get back to the fact that Prince Harry is the only one who has bassed his career round it.

I wonder whether he considers what damage he may be doing to his own children and whether, for their sakes, he should stop whiging?

Glorianny Mon 04-Sep-23 14:29:29

cc

Glorianny

What a pity that a documentary about injured service people, the trauma they experience and the support and help they have gained through sport and the games should be highlighted in the British Press only because of a speech by the person who helped to establish it, but who is consistently rubbished by them for saying nasty things about the royal family.

I agree, the games are a good idea and any support they give to damaged and injured service people is great. But it isn't really about Harry.
It's sad that he lost his mother, but many, many people lose their mothers every year, at various ages. It was a long time ago and it is well past the time he should be looking for sympathy, it doesn't excuse his behaviour. To many of us Harry is an irrelevance and I wish that he would stop inserting himself into anything that garners publicity.

So basically the fact that he started the games and is one of its most important supporters doesn't matter?

Glorianny Mon 04-Sep-23 14:32:05

M0nica

Prince Harry is not the only child to lose his mother. Everyday children lose their parent and the majority of them go on to live useful and purposeful lives without having to tell everyone about their misery all the time.

I do not doubt the trauma such children suffer, my DiL, my mother and my grandmother all grew up in families, where their father died when they were young and I have seen how this affects people through three different generations.

Many more children lose parents through relationship breakdown and quite a few people in the public eye had a parent who walked out and was never seen again.

But we get back to the fact that Prince Harry is the only one who has bassed his career round it.

I wonder whether he considers what damage he may be doing to his own children and whether, for their sakes, he should stop whiging?

How many of those children have to walk behind their mother's coffin with cameras closing in on them so their every reaction is recorded? How many of them then have their father move his mistress into the family, someone their mother hated and blamed for the marriage breakdown?

MrsThatcher Mon 04-Sep-23 14:36:01

How many of those children have to walk behind their mother's coffin with cameras closing in on them so their every reaction is recorded? How many of them then have their father move his mistress into the family, someone their mother hated and blamed for the marriage breakdown?

Oh Change the record - boring!!!

Glorianny Mon 04-Sep-23 14:42:12

Try reading some of the real reviews of the series.
One says
It's also very clear that Prince Harry is very dedicated to the Invictus Games since he founded them in 2014. The series is all about the veterans and their individual journey but the few times Prince Harry was shown on screen, you can see/feel his sincerity, love and connection to this community
You can read them here
www.imdb.com/title/tt14491228/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
What's very clear is that Heart of Invictus is about the athletes and not about Harry..

Joseann Mon 04-Sep-23 14:50:50

I used to know every Paul McCartney song off by heart, probably still do! I remember he said his mother Mary died of breast cancer when he was a similar age to Harry. He wrote "Let it be" about her. When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me, Speaking words of wisdom, Let it be, let it be. Just one meaningful composition. Here was someone who could have wallowed in his grief writing melancholy "woe is me" music for many years, but he got on with living letting his product speak for itself.
The trouble is, Harry has no talent and no product other than his now crumbling link with the Royal Family.

sodapop Mon 04-Sep-23 14:50:57

Glorianny I didn't say the Invictus Games were not a success, I commented on Harry's continual whining about his unhappy life. Time to move on.

Joseann Mon 04-Sep-23 14:52:10

Exactly sodapop.

MrsThatcher Mon 04-Sep-23 14:55:34

Joseann

I used to know every Paul McCartney song off by heart, probably still do! I remember he said his mother Mary died of breast cancer when he was a similar age to Harry. He wrote "Let it be" about her. When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me, Speaking words of wisdom, Let it be, let it be. Just one meaningful composition. Here was someone who could have wallowed in his grief writing melancholy "woe is me" music for many years, but he got on with living letting his product speak for itself.
The trouble is, Harry has no talent and no product other than his now crumbling link with the Royal Family.

I didn’t know that about ‘Let it be’. I love that song. What a wonderful tribute to his Mother. Thanks for sharing that Joseann.

Mollygo Mon 04-Sep-23 14:55:38

Harry should have stuck to being the founder of the Invictus Games, an idea he took from the Warrior Games.
It was a worthwhile effort and has benefited those injured in warfare and helped to give them a purpose in becoming athletes.

All Harry’s diverting of focus onto him does nothing to improve things for the Invictus competitors, rather it detracts from the games and their participants.
A figurehead who has faced trauma and come through stronger would be better than one who is constantly in the news reliving his trauma in a personal pity party.

At least he didn’t have to go into the care system when he lost his mother. We none of us truly know whether he wanted to to walk behind the coffin with his family or whether he would have complained about not getting closure if he had been refused the opportunity.

Rather than expecting sympathy for their injuries and trauma, the athletes have had to fight to overcome them in order to compete instead of bemoaning their misfortunes.

Harry could learn a lesson from them.

Joseann Mon 04-Sep-23 14:57:44

MrsThatcher

Joseann

I used to know every Paul McCartney song off by heart, probably still do! I remember he said his mother Mary died of breast cancer when he was a similar age to Harry. He wrote "Let it be" about her. When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me, Speaking words of wisdom, Let it be, let it be. Just one meaningful composition. Here was someone who could have wallowed in his grief writing melancholy "woe is me" music for many years, but he got on with living letting his product speak for itself.
The trouble is, Harry has no talent and no product other than his now crumbling link with the Royal Family.

I didn’t know that about ‘Let it be’. I love that song. What a wonderful tribute to his Mother. Thanks for sharing that Joseann.

Yes, Mrs Thatcher, I think we automatically associate Mother Mary with the Virgin Mary. I guess we interpret it as we choose.

Glorianny Mon 04-Sep-23 15:02:07

But he hasn't given another speech, he hasn't done anything apart rom an introduction to the series which was filmed in 2022. For some reason the British media ignore the series focus on Harry and GNers jump on the bandwagon, He appears briefly. There are 5 episodes each focussing on a different athlete. Why are you all so obsessed about a small part of this and one man's speech? It's ridiculous..

Joseann Mon 04-Sep-23 15:11:43

The biggest struggle for me was no one around me really could help. I didn’t have that support structure, that network, or that expert advice to identify what was actually going on with me.
Why say anything? Again! And again!

Joseann Mon 04-Sep-23 15:13:18

I'm guessing Harry had far more people to support him - family, counsellors, teachers, chaplains etc - than anyone in the world.

Allsorts Mon 04-Sep-23 15:14:39

If he was interested in mental health, he could work to help them, f havent his money or no need to ever work. He wouldn’t last two day without his families money. Does he not realise how very offensive he is.