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Sara Sarif Father and partner realise a video

(45 Posts)
62Granny Wed 06-Sep-23 15:57:35

I thought when the child's death was announced they said the step mother did not speak much English, she doesn't seem to be having any language problems on this video, she describes the child's death as an " incident " and seems more concerned with the police raising family members homes looking for them. If they have themselves up there would be no need for the police to be looking for them.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66726936

62Granny Wed 06-Sep-23 15:58:44

Sorry I misspelled her surname it is Sharif.

Notagranny44 Wed 06-Sep-23 16:21:27

Her English does seem quite good, reading from a prepared statement. However, I think that she does not realise the difference between "incident" and "accident". The way that sentence was constructed "incident" does not make much sense. I am not defending them, they should have stayed in the UK and faced up to the situation, especially as the Pakistani police are seen as so terrifying.

M0nica Wed 06-Sep-23 16:22:02

Given that the post mortem report revealed that Sara had "suffered multiple and extensive injuries" that were "likely to have been caused over a sustained and extended period of time".

her father and step-mother's description of her death as being the result of am 'incident' sounds, how shall put it? Implausible.

M0nica Wed 06-Sep-23 16:22:58

The same applies if they meant accident not incident.

Fairislecable Wed 06-Sep-23 17:15:54

The way she mentions the death of a child!!

No tears, no shock, no despair from him or her. They are only upset at the inconvenience to the family.

They chose to abandon the child’s body and fled to Pakistan - they are still breathing and she is not. Just horrific.

Galaxy Wed 06-Sep-23 18:32:21

Yes implausible is a good description. That poor child.

Iam64 Wed 06-Sep-23 19:31:34

I’m not convinced she misnamed incident for accident. My impression is of a cold self centred woman out to attempt to blame the Pakistani police for the way they’re refusing to bo-operate with them.

Yes, that poor child

Allsorts Wed 06-Sep-23 19:51:30

I couldn’t believe what I heard. Hope they get what they deserve in Pakistan, that they don’t come back here which is what they want.. No one knows what that poor child went through and there will never be true justice for her. Let them stay there.

Iam64 Wed 06-Sep-23 19:55:23

Ch4 news had an interview with birth mother, Olga. She said they shared custody until the step mother told her the children didn’t want to see her. Olga claims social services told her they couldn’t do anything if the children refused to see her. Olga looked exhausted. Her own mother wept, describing that Olga had a breakdown during this period.
All that we’ve heard from children’s services and the police is they had brief historical involvement.

As a number of us commented on the earlier thread, there’s a complex, tragic story here.

Nazir Afzal was interviewed. He could see no legitimate reason for the 3 adults leaving the country. He hopes they will cooperate as they say they will but believes it could be 2-3 years before these 3 are returned (he mentioned political pressure may help)

Meanwhile, Olga wants her son returned to her care, he’s somewhere in Pakistan - the legal situation around that sounds complex

Iam64 Wed 06-Sep-23 19:56:40

Allsorts, they have Sara’s brother with them and their own children. Those children must be considered at risk and they may be British citizens

Iam64 Wed 06-Sep-23 20:12:40

I’ve just read on line that in 2019, the Family Court awarded custody to the father, with mum having regular contact

Whitewavemark2 Wed 06-Sep-23 20:23:14

Perhaps I’m misunderstanding a cultural aspect here? But does the child appear to have a lot of makeup on? It worries me when I see this on children as if they are being sexualised.

Oreo Wed 06-Sep-23 20:30:27

Fairislecable

The way she mentions the death of a child!!

No tears, no shock, no despair from him or her. They are only upset at the inconvenience to the family.

They chose to abandon the child’s body and fled to Pakistan - they are still breathing and she is not. Just horrific.

This.
I hope there will be justice in the end, however long it takes.

Iam64 Wed 06-Sep-23 20:31:33

That’s worrying lots of us as it is over on mumsnet.
I’m no expert but I live in a town with a large Pakistani Muslim community. Generally, girls are modestly dressed and you don’t see primary school children either dressed as Sara was, certainly not with makeup.

Oldbat1 Wed 06-Sep-23 20:34:26

Poor child. What a very sad short life.

Galaxy Wed 06-Sep-23 21:17:23

It's a red flag, we can pretend it's not as I have heard some do but that's what it is.

M0nica Wed 06-Sep-23 21:47:08

I am not sure I entirely agree with you Whitewave. To be wearing make-up doesn't necessarily mean that she is being sexualised. The style of dress she was wearing, was very much a child's dress and the make up looked just the kind of make-up little girls wear. Her mother is not British and you do not know how her culture uses make-up with young girls

Iam64 Thu 07-Sep-23 09:18:09

MOnica / the impression given is the photograph was taken in her fathers care - maybe that’s incorrect
I’m The photographs of her playing in the garden of the house where she died she’s wearing western clothes, shorts, shirt sleeve shirts and dresses. At odds with his statement that she’d been bullied for wearing hijab so removed from school

Esmay Thu 07-Sep-23 09:20:15

I have a lot of close Muslim friends and none of their daughters wear make up at such a young age .
Maybe it was for a school play .

It's horrendous to read that she suffered long term injuries .

Eventually , her step mother and father will be held accountable .

Callistemon21 Thu 07-Sep-23 10:04:40

M0nica

I am not sure I entirely agree with you Whitewave. To be wearing make-up doesn't necessarily mean that she is being sexualised. The style of dress she was wearing, was very much a child's dress and the make up looked just the kind of make-up little girls wear. Her mother is not British and you do not know how her culture uses make-up with young girls

Her mother is Polish and presumably had no control over what happened to her daughter as the father was apparently granted custody.

I don't believe children of Polish parents living anywhere would wear such professional-looking makeup any more than British 9 or 10 year olds would, although they may experiment.

Bella23 Thu 07-Sep-23 11:22:57

Whitewavemark2

Perhaps I’m misunderstanding a cultural aspect here? But does the child appear to have a lot of makeup on? It worries me when I see this on children as if they are being sexualised.

I thought it peculiar as well all the makeup and looking very Western.
Why did her uncle have to disappear as well?
Why wasn't it followed up when she was suddenly removed and said to be home tutoring?
I thought the grandfather was very noncomital and covering his own back.
The only truth seemed to becoming from her birth mother and grandmother.

Dee1012 Thu 07-Sep-23 12:08:37

Iam64

I’ve just read on line that in 2019, the Family Court awarded custody to the father, with mum having regular contact

There's a documentary currently on iPlayer about Family Courts and some of the horrendous decisions made by them.

dogsmother Thu 07-Sep-23 12:33:15

Whitewavemark it certainly disturbed me to see her with such adult make up.

pascal30 Thu 07-Sep-23 12:49:38

I wondered if this was a photo for the marriage market in Parkistan.. but it is speculation on my part as I don't know how that works.. maybe for when she was older