Dublin riots

Yes, they are being called far right thugs.

The police seem to be condemning the protesters more than the violent knife attacker.

Surely the two things are related? There doesn't seem to be concrete facts but I understand a man attacked a woman, a teacher and three children with a knife. That's really dreadful but fortunately a delivery driver saw what was happening and intervened so the man was apprehended. The delivery driver is Brazilian but was erroneously thought to be the perpetrator rather than the hero and it was widely circulated that he was an immigrant. This brought out a load of far right extremists who have done millions of euros worth of damage and virtually took over the centre of Dublin. tbh I think it's wise to keep information about the women and children out of the media, there is enough sorrow and pain in their lives without anyone adding to it. Is it important that people know that a false story circulating on social media can cause such chaos? Yes, I think it is. The Garda commisioner said, "What is clear is that people have been radicalised through social media."

Whle I agree with foxie48's understanding of what happened, I think such riots are the product of deeper more systemic problems.

If Irish society was otherwise at ease itself, I do not think such a dreadful event would have sparked such severe riots on such doubtful information.

What’s really worrying is that people with really serious mental health problems do not get the help they desperately need, whoever thought care in the community would work have just freed up beds and left people who need help on theit own. I don’t know if the person who committed this atrocity was mentally ill, but he certainly had severe problems, my heart goes out to all affected. As for rioters causing all chais, fear and damage, should foot the bill.

MOnica I agree with you but it shows it takes very little to spark riots, this is why people in positions of power and influence need to be very careful with their rhetoric.
Allsorts sadly there is not much "care in the community" so many of the people who commit dreadful acts of violence are mentally ill (not all ) and who knows the story behind this tragedy, I just hope they all recover.

I'm horrified that such a terrible incident was seen as an excuse to riot in the first place.

Apparently a go-fund appeal “Buy this man a pint!” has generated £190k (or €s?) for the brave Brazilian ‘Deliveroo’ guy who bashed the Dublin knife man with his crash helmet.
A huge ‘thank you’ to him for stopping potentially worse carnage. Well done that brave man for stepping in!

Smileless2012

I'm horrified that such a terrible incident was seen as an excuse to riot in the first place.

As with football hooligans there are people in society that are just waiting for any excuse to become violent. It’s up to governments to not give people an excuse to behave that way.

He spoke of how he used his helmet to hit the man who had attacked three young children and the female creche worker.

A fundraiser has been set up to 'buy Caio Benicio a pint'.

'The man's a hero and the least we can do is buy him a pint, so I'm asking you to donate the price of a pint of Guinness in your local so that he knows the people of Dublin appreciate him,' the organiser said.

foxie48

Surely the two things are related? There doesn't seem to be concrete facts but I understand a man attacked a woman, a teacher and three children with a knife. That's really dreadful but fortunately a delivery driver saw what was happening and intervened so the man was apprehended. The delivery driver is Brazilian but was erroneously thought to be the perpetrator rather than the hero and it was widely circulated that he was an immigrant. This brought out a load of far right extremists who have done millions of euros worth of damage and virtually took over the centre of Dublin. tbh I think it's wise to keep information about the women and children out of the media, there is enough sorrow and pain in their lives without anyone adding to it. Is it important that people know that a false story circulating on social media can cause such chaos? Yes, I think it is. The Garda commisioner said, "What is clear is that people have been radicalised through social media."

A woman was interviewed who also rushed over to intervene, as did other bystanders.

The identity of the perpetrator has been withheld for whatever reason.

The subsequent violence is inexcusable but may be symbolic of the unrest which is sweeping throughout Europe.

The identity of the perpetrator is a 50 year old man who has lived in Ireland for 20 years.
I am not sure at all that people mistook the Brazilian man for the perpetrator. The reporting has been utterly ridiculous. It was like wading through treacle and still is to some extent to find out what was going on.

Well one thing is for certain, focusing attention on the reaction rather than on the cause is not going to make anything better.

This is nothing new in Ireland. It was only in March that there were protests.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/21/ireland-anti-refugee-protests-far-right-uk-politics

I don’t understand what is going on at all. The news we are getting just says it is a group of far right extremists but not what they are being extreme about. We heard that a child had been killed but very sketchy details.

Difficult not to focus on 500 thugs burning police cars, breaking into shops and generally creating mayhem for several hours in Ireland's capital city. Ireland has a very Right Wing party, which is Anti immigration which was formed in 2016. It currently doesn't have any elected members but it does have it's supporters. Would this riot have happened if the perpetrator been known to have been a white native Irish man? No of course not!

Apparently, once again we have social media to thank for the reaction to the knife crime. The attacker was wrongly described as an immigrant according to the police, and of course you then get this small rump of far right idiots causing mayhem.

I thought the speech given by the Irish (haven’t a clue how to spell it) leader was excellent.

The man as I said has lived in Ireland for 20 years but had previously lived elsewhere. I think Algeria but they are not releasing that information.

I read that the man was Algerian, but had lived in Ireland for many years.
What makes anybody attack and try and kill children is a complete mystery, whatever nationality they are.
The riots and looting that followed this are shameful, but do show that not everything in that country is rosy.The reporting and the attitude of the Garda around it were complete amateur hour.

The role of social media in stoking the fires 🔥 was alarming too.
Dangerous and shocking

Social media played that role because reporting from the media was so appallingly poor.

I doubt the thugs who ran riot are the sort to read newspapers or watch TV news, they get their information from Tik Tok and Telegram. In today's news there's a transcript of a voice message which went out. Absolutely disgusting behaviour regardless of the nationality or race of the perpetrator.

Galaxy

The identity of the perpetrator is a 50 year old man who has lived in Ireland for 20 years.
I am not sure at all that people mistook the Brazilian man for the perpetrator. The reporting has been utterly ridiculous. It was like wading through treacle and still is to some extent to find out what was going on.

So the perpetrator is allegedly an immigrant who has lived there for 20 years

The hero of the day is an immigrant too.

Do none of the stupid rioters see any irony in that?

Well you might want to think about that foxie because most people arent getting information from traditional media they gave up on that some time ago.

There is more than one hero in this, one of the children’s carers tried to stop the attacker, he shielded the child he was responsible for and tried to protect the other children. More than one other person also tried to intervene, at least one of them a woman.