National Trust calendar - no Christian festivals

Just to clear up any misunderstanding, I checked the calendars in the NT shop and all is well. Even the non religious festival of Hallowe'en gets an October picture page in one of the calendars!
I'm neither worried, nor kicking up a fuss, but I can't understand why Christian dates have been excluded in the calendars mentioned in the article. I would be annoyed if the date of Christmas were shelved, but Ramadan present in any calendar.
By the way, I bought myself a nice Fairisle knitted beanie in the shop. I had been looking for one that didnt itch like many do.

I think it just fuels unhappiness and feelings of rejection. Why these things can never be added without exclusion and so really become inclusive is a real mystery because I don’t know anyone who would be offended that way.

Press trying to stir up I’ll feeling amongst those that don’t check it out
Telegraph 👎🏼

Ill blooming feeling not I ll ….flipping predictive text always thinks it knows best

Well, we know when Christmas is, so when is Easter next year?

Easter Sunday is the first Sunday after the Paschal Full Moon, the first full moon after the vernal equinox and based on the Gregorian calendar. The Julian calendar is different.

Easter Sunday is on 31st March next year.

We can expect Easter Eggs in the shops on Boxing Day, then

Joseann

Just to clear up any misunderstanding, I checked the calendars in the NT shop and all is well. Even the non religious festival of Hallowe'en gets an October picture page in one of the calendars!
I'm neither worried, nor kicking up a fuss, but I can't understand why Christian dates have been excluded in the calendars mentioned in the article. I would be annoyed if the date of Christmas were shelved, but Ramadan present in any calendar.
By the way, I bought myself a nice Fairisle knitted beanie in the shop. I had been looking for one that didnt itch like many do.

Apparently it is the calendar they gave to their volunteers but why exclude Christmas and Easter? It’s like they are trying to stir up trouble. Just keep things as they are FGS!!

I am fed up with the NT in recent years for various reasons but the one uppermost in my mind is their failure to provide a new bridge which they promised they would over marsh and creeks at Stiffkey, Norfolk. It is essential there is a bridge there so walkers can get back off the marsh when it floods. The current bridge has been there for many decades and is just a well built wooden bridge.

They are stalling by saying a new bridge would cost £250,000 but a local builder has offered to make one for £25,000 but they have refused.

However the Bridge fairies have been out and built a temporary bridge which the NT pulled down but the fairies built it back again! 🤣🤣

But it’s not a nice little free calendar they gave out - it was an internal document flagging dates that volunteers might not have been aware of. It’s not erasing Christmas or Easter because it wasn’t that kind of calendar!

AmberSpyglass

But it’s not a nice little free calendar they gave out - it was an internal document flagging dates that volunteers might not have been aware of. It’s not erasing Christmas or Easter because it wasn’t that kind of calendar!

Do you ever get times when you lose the will to live? 🙄

I wonder if it mentions Hanukkah on December 7th? Include them all.

I find it a sad old world now. The NT have gone down in my estimation. 👎

Even Ebernezer Scrooge celebrated Christmas, eventually.

This is how they’ve explained it. I think people are assuming calendar in the sense of a printed item, but it looks like this was just a list of additional dates to consider.

Just keep things as they are FGS!!

The fact that the NT are now informing their volunteers now of dates of non christian festivals implies that it's not something they've done before.

So you'd be happy if the NT didn't bother, then?

I am fed up with the NT in recent years
I'm pissed off with them too because they have stopped dogs in many of their grounds because they pee!

Perhaps pee is a euphemism for what comes out elsewhere.

I remember taking my dogs to a woodland reserve and the walk from the car park to the entry was littered with stuff not picked up by owners. It was like walking through a mine field.

Female dogs’ urine does awful things to nice lawns … perhaps that’s the reason?

It's a shame though. We wanted to visit Sudeley Castle, Glos, (£20 a head) in August, but the dog wasn't even allowed in the grounds or gardens to allow us to swap over one at a time.
In France, earlier this summer we visit two châteaux (10€ each) and dogs were allowed, though in one of them you were supposed to carry the animal inside, [30kg of golden retriever!], not that anyone did.
Perhaps the NT could pay for dog 💩 shovellers, though we always pick up ours.

Just a little bit of thought on the part of those who produced this calendar would have told them that they would offend people by leaving off Christmas and Easter. What is worrying is that they didn’t think. Or else they don’t care about offending their core membership and volunteers.

Nobody produced an actual calendar. It was guidance for NT volunteers and staff about other festivals, to supplement the extensive guidance they already receive about Christmas and Easter.

It was first produced, according the the Head of Communications at the NT, in 2017, and not one volunteer or staff member seems to have objected to it, until the very right-wing Reform Trust made an issue of it at this year’s AGM

I’m beginning to wonder if people have lost the ability to read.

AmberSpyglass

This is how they’ve explained it. I think people are assuming calendar in the sense of a printed item, but it looks like this was just a list of additional dates to consider.

Leaving stuff out is not inclusive (which the “calendar” was supposed to be).

Why do they need to even give volunteers such a thing?

A pic of the calendar/supplement would be useful.

MaizieD

AmberSpyglass

But it’s not a nice little free calendar they gave out - it was an internal document flagging dates that volunteers might not have been aware of. It’s not erasing Christmas or Easter because it wasn’t that kind of calendar!

Do you ever get times when you lose the will to live? 🙄

Not quite, but there are certainly times when I lose the will to explain anything to people who won't listen.

I think everyone has understood, albeit with a little correction. Well I did.

Joseann

I think everyone has understood, albeit with a little correction. Well I did.

Hmmm ... if everyone has understood, why are they still bleating on about it?

Who said anything about the 'calendar' (which it actually isn't) being intended to be inclusive, Primrose53?.

Did you read the screenshot of the NT's explanation that AmberSpyglass posted?

It IS a bloody supplement!!!